Based on whatever crap is convenient to the ludicrous script writing, running out of fuel (which to my knowledge has never been a "thing" in star wars) makes a ship comically hurtle backwards like its on a bungee cord. I'm sure the animators were rolling their eyes when tasked with that.
Star Wars VIII : The Last Jedi [WARNING: SPOILERS]
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Based on whatever crap is convenient to the ludicrous script writing, running out of fuel (which to my knowledge has never been a "thing" in star wars) makes a ship comically hurtle backwards like its on a bungee cord. I'm sure the animators were rolling their eyes when tasked with that.
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I thought they were in the upper atmosphere hence the bombs could fall.
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Just got back from this.. my review:
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Snoke.. they spent so long building him up and wasted him. I actually think they ran out of ideas if that's how they end his arc
[*]Leia's superman moment. I know they mentioned that she had some connection to the force, but seriously?
[*]A lot of the film felt like filler for the backstory, especially the casino scenes
[*]Seemed like a lot of new creatures had appeared in the universe, which is good, but some of them seemed like blatant toy cash-ins (as was that pointless rebel ring)
[*]Too much Carrie Fisher. This may sound harsh but she isn't/wasn't the best actress and it felt like they made the decision to put more of her in since she died
[*]Yoda ghost was the best part and got a massive chuckle from the audience, when he lit the tree on fire
[*]Adam Driver was better in this than Ep VII
[*]The ending... ok, but nothing special
[*]A lot of the film felt like filler for the backstory, especially the casino scenes
[*]Seemed like a lot of new creatures had appeared in the universe, which is good, but some of them seemed like blatant toy cash-ins (as was that pointless rebel ring)
[*]Too much Carrie Fisher. This may sound harsh but she isn't/wasn't the best actress and it felt like they made the decision to put more of her in since she died
[*]Yoda ghost was the best part and got a massive chuckle from the audience, when he lit the tree on fire
[*]Adam Driver was better in this than Ep VII
[*]The ending... ok, but nothing special
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I agree whilst he hadn’t got the best writing to work with a Kylo Ren felt like a much better character and Adam Driver pulled it off well.
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I think Kylo Ren is by far and away the best character in the entire movie, followed by Poe.
They are both characters that have their flaws, they have to confront them and that makes them human, relatable. You cannot dislike them. Even though Kylo Ren is the designated bad guy I can't help but root for him throughout the whole movie.
Rey and her band of diversity hires are just too sugar sweet. The fact that Rey is a Mary Sue and her entire mob are nothing but box tickers makes me struggle to associate with them. Finn perhaps is the most likeable because of his struggles with his identity but everyone else is completely one dimensional.
They have utterly failed to introduce characters that have depth to them.
They are both characters that have their flaws, they have to confront them and that makes them human, relatable. You cannot dislike them. Even though Kylo Ren is the designated bad guy I can't help but root for him throughout the whole movie.
Rey and her band of diversity hires are just too sugar sweet. The fact that Rey is a Mary Sue and her entire mob are nothing but box tickers makes me struggle to associate with them. Finn perhaps is the most likeable because of his struggles with his identity but everyone else is completely one dimensional.
They have utterly failed to introduce characters that have depth to them.
I think the problem with TLJ is that it's just not a very well made film. Yes it looks great, but the story veers off to pointless places, the characters are simplistic, the plot holes are large and obvious. Stuff that was given great importance in TFA was just dismissed in TLJ. It feels like a summer blockbuster film with a Star Wars theme, but other than that it's all explosions and merchandising. Michael Bay could have made this film with a Transformers theme. It's just a made by numbers tickbox film. There's no heart in it.
I think it would have been better received if it was just a well put together film. You might not have agreed with the story direction or character development, but at least those elements could have been competently executed.
I think it would have been better received if it was just a well put together film. You might not have agreed with the story direction or character development, but at least those elements could have been competently executed.
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All that matters is that it does well at the box office. By ticking all the boxes and dumbing down the story they are guaranteed international success. It will sell just as well in China as in Thailand as in Africa as in South America.
Everyone gets represented and there's a toy to sell to everyone everywhere.
Sad but true. People don't bother to make a good film if a bad one still rakes in the cash. However, in the long run, it may damage the brand but a juggernaut the size of the Star Wars franchise might be immune to one or two poor films. The prequels didn't kill off Star Wars, I doubt this trilogy will either.
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@Buddy Nope you’re not alone I really enjoyed it too. There was even an article on bbc about how polarising this film appears to be. I think it’s suffering from ‘ghostbusters sequel syndrome’ a bit. Plenty of gripes to be made but many are overplayed.
One gripe I keep seeing that I don’t get is this:
So yeah, to me that’s just a weird thing to pick on.
Also!
I mean FFS, you could rip the existing universe apart easily - why would an x wing go faster IN SPACE when not in attack mode (i.e. 2 wings rather than 4). Doesn’t make a jot of sense at face value but you could flesh out it out to make it work... say, 4 wings diverts power from thrusters to gun, 2 wings has more power to the thrusters. There, done. Don’t worry about it!
Re: the airlock, I know you are restating the criticism from elsewhere, so not having a rag at you, but I think the whole ‘why don’t they all get sucked out’ criticism is so overzealous - Leah flying in space is total redonk fo show, but from memory doesn’t she fly inside the ship a bit before the door opens... surely the outer airlock just closed behind her (off screen) before she opened the inner airlock? Not sure why so many people are getting hung up on this.
@Buddy Nope you’re not alone I really enjoyed it too. There was even an article on bbc about how polarising this film appears to be. I think it’s suffering from ‘ghostbusters sequel syndrome’ a bit. Plenty of gripes to be made but many are overplayed.
One gripe I keep seeing that I don’t get is this:
Fin’s plot not going anywhere. Now, I would agree that the whole Phasma subplot was extremely boring and forgettable but I do not see the sections with Fin as a ‘pointless tangent’. Why does his failure at jamming the tracker have to be successful? In the first LOTR film...
...but it’s obviously not just about that specific end result. Actually, I legitimately like that he failed because in all these films the good guys pull off some ridiculous luck fests - the point was that the situation was hopeless and his failure was suppose to highlight how dire the situation was.
... the fellowship failed, so by the same logic that was comparibly pointless
...but it’s obviously not just about that specific end result. Actually, I legitimately like that he failed because in all these films the good guys pull off some ridiculous luck fests - the point was that the situation was hopeless and his failure was suppose to highlight how dire the situation was.
So yeah, to me that’s just a weird thing to pick on.
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As I mentioned, I did lol in the cinema at ‘bombs dropping’ in space, but as for the spaceships losing momentum in space when running out of fuel, I’d suggest the ships do have some sort of gravity pull or they could have used a tractor beam of sorts that was weak at long distances... you can make up reasons to make it work. It’s not fatal to the film or remotely material so I don’t understand why people are getting so bothered about it.
I mean FFS, you could rip the existing universe apart easily - why would an x wing go faster IN SPACE when not in attack mode (i.e. 2 wings rather than 4). Doesn’t make a jot of sense at face value but you could flesh out it out to make it work... say, 4 wings diverts power from thrusters to gun, 2 wings has more power to the thrusters. There, done. Don’t worry about it!
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She flies back into the wrecked bridge, so opening the door would de-pressurise that part of the ship, and blow people (and Leia) back into space. If they'd shown her flying into an air lock and having it cycle through that would have made sense. Or even having some kind of emergency force field over the door like they do in the hanger bays. Just some kind of momentary reason of why this is possible. The way it is now, it's just sloppy writing and continuity. Sure, the audience can accept the leap that after all these years, after some great calamity that threatens to kill her, in a moment of crisis Leia can manipulate the force enough to pull herself back to safety in zero-g. Not bothering to address how the crew rescue her without any adverse affects by opening a door directly into space is just lazy. All they had to do is show her hand reaching through the door to be grabbed on the other side, and as she does a forcefield sparks to show there's something keeping the air in the ship when the door is open.
Saw it last night and enjoyed it, now I'm reading / being told all the reasons why I shouldn't have 
Yes there was plenty of stupid things in it, yes Hamils acting hasn't improved over the last 40 years, but I'm not a die hard SW fan and the bar was set so low with ep.1, 2 and 3 pretty much anything is an improvement over that.
1 thing though...
Yes there was plenty of stupid things in it, yes Hamils acting hasn't improved over the last 40 years, but I'm not a die hard SW fan and the bar was set so low with ep.1, 2 and 3 pretty much anything is an improvement over that.
1 thing though...
Laser Sword??
Laser Sword???
Laser Sword????
Laser Sword???
Laser Sword????
Probably but it deserves it, portions of that make about as much sense as TLJ.
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I think sometimes people feel disappointed or let down by one specific thing in a film (in this case luke ending) and that sort of opens the flood gates to complain about everything and anything, when a satisfying ending probably would have glossed over the less good bits
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I know, right? There has never been a bigger FUUUU!!! to the mythos than director forcing beloved character to utter a knockoffware names in a most disrespectful fashion. Sounded like something a daft blonde girlfriend would say before being dumped.
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I saw this last night. Thoughts:
The worst SW film IMO. Poor compared with the others even EpI. Some of it was complete nonsense. My rants:
Leia survives space = WTF? I think that's going to be a casting problem in EpIX even though that's no fault of Disneys.
That Rey is the last Jedi despite virtually few lessons from Luke.
Luke = What's his problem? They may have well cast Victor Meldrew as a Jedi Master.
I thought that Kylo Ren was still throwing his toys in the corner when he didn't get his way.
A huge mistake bumping off Snoke that early, Should've done that in EpIX & given us a bit more background too.
Yoda being a puppet again & one that looked as though it had been bought off the shelf in a toyshop.
Laura Dern's was like that of a crew member in the landing party in the star trek original series. You know she's going to die.
What's with the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit star destroyer? I think that Disney should be sued for copyright infringement.
Not enough screen time for Finn & Poe.
The Porgs - the most pointless SW Character Since Jar Jar Binks - I think that Chewie should've Killed & eaten them all.
Leia survives space = WTF? I think that's going to be a casting problem in EpIX even though that's no fault of Disneys.
That Rey is the last Jedi despite virtually few lessons from Luke.
Luke = What's his problem? They may have well cast Victor Meldrew as a Jedi Master.
I thought that Kylo Ren was still throwing his toys in the corner when he didn't get his way.
A huge mistake bumping off Snoke that early, Should've done that in EpIX & given us a bit more background too.
Yoda being a puppet again & one that looked as though it had been bought off the shelf in a toyshop.
Laura Dern's was like that of a crew member in the landing party in the star trek original series. You know she's going to die.
What's with the Northrop Grumman B-2 Spirit star destroyer? I think that Disney should be sued for copyright infringement.
Not enough screen time for Finn & Poe.
The Porgs - the most pointless SW Character Since Jar Jar Binks - I think that Chewie should've Killed & eaten them all.
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Let's face it. These movies are designed by committee now.
The very best movies are generally adapted from best selling novels.
For a novelist it is critical that they develop a character because it is all on paper. The reader must fully understand who that character is because they can't be shown pictures.
The very best movies are generally adapted from best selling novels.
For a novelist it is critical that they develop a character because it is all on paper. The reader must fully understand who that character is because they can't be shown pictures.
When he said that, I thought "just jumped the shark". If you're not going to take the rules and precepts of your own fictional universe seriously, then make a Deadpool film and be done with it. It ****** on the fans when the even director can't take it seriously.
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I read up on the Porgs. Basically the island they shot the movie on was a natural habitat for Puffins. They are a protected species there and they couldn't do anything about it so they had to figure out how they could encorporate them into the movie.