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Star Wars VIII : The Last Jedi [WARNING: SPOILERS]
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Don
There’s a bit where
Rey is introduced to Poe - hang on did they never meet at all in the first one? Also makes it clear they’ll be ****ing by the end since Finn seems to be making do with Rose
2nd worst one for me.
Soldato
I'm often confused by stances like that.
I'm confused because if you're not a SW fan base, then why are you even here, in this thread questioning our rationality, seems odd, masochistic, counterproductive, like going to a football pub to tell the cheering drunks how their beloved game is rubbish. Or are you just using internet forums instead of self harm?
I'm also confused because all the hardcore fans are postulating is less plot holes, less stupid ideas, less bad writing, so they are effectively fighting to keep SW's awesomeness levels on 11, on "legendary". And that should also benefit you, as a viewer, even undemanding viewer. So, WTF would you run around a thread like this and whack forumites down with your ad hoc stick in a beehive comments.
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If you ignore the SW universe and judge the film on individual merits I would rate this movie as being worse than the Chronicles of Riddick. Anyone disagree?
Soldato
Honestly, I thought the film was an attractive turd.
Stuff like "the worst film I've ever seen" or worse than TPM is pushing it though.
Yes, it really wasn't that bad...
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They didn't ever meet in the original, no.
Don
I might not have force powers, but I sense a thread ban incoming...
Don
Watched the review posted further up. Spot on.
I think I wil go as far as saying it is worse than TPM to be honest.
I think I wil go as far as saying it is worse than TPM to be honest.
Caporegime
Heard it on the Kermode and Mayo show which I think is off reddit.
This is Star Wars fans in a nutshell.
"To help JJ plan the next film here is the the perfect formula.
Make it the same as the original trilogy, but also make it different. But don’t change anything, make sure to include surprises but not surprises we don’t want, in fact, avoid surprises but don’t rehash anything, also don’t try something new because we won’t like that. Make sure we do justice to the cast but we don’t say how. Make sure we get it right. I want it exactly the way I want it but just a bit different, also the same. Make sure we know the backstory to all the characters, even the incidental ones because we are all speculating and you better be reading my mind but leave it mysterious at the same time. No CGI, keep it practical. Make sure to expand the universe like the Prequel did, you know, using CGI. Also don’t do anything the Prequels did, or the Force Awakens, or the original Trilogy but make it like those films too. Give it some humour but don’t make it too funny. Show us some new force powers but not the ones we haven’t seen before because new powers are ridiculous. Don’t kill anyone, it betrays my childhood but also make it unpredictable by killing off a few characters.
Clear? Good."
This is Star Wars fans in a nutshell.
"To help JJ plan the next film here is the the perfect formula.
Make it the same as the original trilogy, but also make it different. But don’t change anything, make sure to include surprises but not surprises we don’t want, in fact, avoid surprises but don’t rehash anything, also don’t try something new because we won’t like that. Make sure we do justice to the cast but we don’t say how. Make sure we get it right. I want it exactly the way I want it but just a bit different, also the same. Make sure we know the backstory to all the characters, even the incidental ones because we are all speculating and you better be reading my mind but leave it mysterious at the same time. No CGI, keep it practical. Make sure to expand the universe like the Prequel did, you know, using CGI. Also don’t do anything the Prequels did, or the Force Awakens, or the original Trilogy but make it like those films too. Give it some humour but don’t make it too funny. Show us some new force powers but not the ones we haven’t seen before because new powers are ridiculous. Don’t kill anyone, it betrays my childhood but also make it unpredictable by killing off a few characters.
Clear? Good."
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A film with a vaguely coherent plot that doesn’t trash the plot of the previous movie would be a start if you can’t achieve the above.
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That is pretty funny @Raymond Lin but I don’t think I’ve seen anything fans saying they wanted everything the same. In fact aren’t fans criticising this film and TFA for copying the plot beats of the original trilogy?
Been reading some amusing articles from Entertainment Weekly, Vanity Fair, the Independent, etc., etc. telling me I’m racist, misogynist, part of ‘the dark side’ and so forth for not enjoying films with incoherent plots, shoddy scripting and acting amongst other issues.
Been reading some amusing articles from Entertainment Weekly, Vanity Fair, the Independent, etc., etc. telling me I’m racist, misogynist, part of ‘the dark side’ and so forth for not enjoying films with incoherent plots, shoddy scripting and acting amongst other issues.
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Looks like this is taking a bit of a hit on the BO compared to Force Awakens. I'm glad, maybe they'll have a better script next time!!! Really was a little all over the place, esp considering the looooooong runtime (felt like 3+ hrs)
Haha that is hilarious
Couldn’t stop giggling.Humour aside, many of his criticisms are based on his own assumptions and others are overzealous. Many others are valid.
Valid criticisms:
Phasma being pointless / boring. The scene in which she died was a mush mash.
Snoke not being fleshed out - although I wasn’t that invested in him so wasn’t fussed.
The funniest one - why didn’t the ‘empire’ get other ships to light speed ahead to catch the rebel ships... you can hypothesise explanations but on face value that is pretty silly ><
The bombers being terrible - I was lolling at them ‘dropping bombs’ in space in the cinema.
Snoke not being fleshed out - although I wasn’t that invested in him so wasn’t fussed.
The funniest one - why didn’t the ‘empire’ get other ships to light speed ahead to catch the rebel ships... you can hypothesise explanations but on face value that is pretty silly ><
The bombers being terrible - I was lolling at them ‘dropping bombs’ in space in the cinema.
The whole universe seems to he based around non-Newtonian physics. When the ships ran out of fuel was ridiculous for example.Haha that is hilarious
Humour aside, many of his criticisms are based on his own assumptions and others are overzealous. Many others are valid.
Valid criticisms:
Phasma being pointless / boring. The scene in which she died was a mush mash.
Snoke not being fleshed out - although I wasn’t that invested in him so wasn’t fussed.
The funniest one - why didn’t the ‘empire’ get other ships to light speed ahead to catch the rebel ships... you can hypothesise explanations but on face value that is pretty silly ><
The bombers being terrible - I was lolling at them ‘dropping bombs’ in space in the cinema.
Soldato
Not only dropping bombs, but with the loading bay open and pilot just resting on one of the support grids, as if not only dreadnaught had its own gravity but vacuum of space no longer existed around it. Happened twice, second time when Leia decided to do superman run to docking bay, then opened the door, plenty of "air temperature changed" clouds of vapour but none of the people running to her rescue got sucked out through open hatch, camera quickly cuts to next scene.. There is literally no proof reading of any kind done on those scripts.
Don
on the bomber same forcefield tech as used on the death Star etc landing bays in every movie, obviously doesn't explain the Leia part, but even as someone who enjoyed the film I can explain that away