Star Wars VIII : The Last Jedi [WARNING: SPOILERS]

enkoda · 11 Apr 2018 at 13:40

Rroff said:
I've seen all the main Star Wars movies - TPM to TLJ to me is like Windows 8 to Windows 10 - Windows 8 is dumb Windows 10 just takes the mick.

On the other hand it is almost 20 years since I watched the original TPM release I'm not sure what my opinion would be of it today to be fair - the last time I watched it was the fan edit.

In that case don't worry, I wouldn't want to inflict TPM on anyone over 12 years old!

I haven't seen the fan edit, nor have I seen the Despecialized versions of the original trilogy - I'm not sure I'd be able to spot the changes to warrant watching them.

JediFragger · 11 Apr 2018 at 14:22

enkoda said:
I'm not sure I'd be able to spot the changes to warrant watching them.

Believe me, once you've seen Han 'step over' Jabba's tail in ANH your soul just wants to jump out of your body in horror

wildman · 11 Apr 2018 at 14:27

Gerard said:
Wonder when Leia went from sounding like an upperclass English woman to an elderly american woman with dodgy fitting dentures.

probably due to all the back door action Solo was giving her in the cargo bay of the falcon ?

JediFragger · 11 Apr 2018 at 14:41

wildman said:
probably due to all the back door action Solo was giving her in the cargo bay of the falcon ?

No butter either.

Gerard · 11 Apr 2018 at 15:49

wildman said:
probably due to all the back door action Solo was giving her in the cargo bay of the falcon ?

JediFragger · 11 Apr 2018 at 17:06

Probably made her bite her own tongue in two, hence the way she talked.

aardvark · 15 Apr 2018 at 11:14

enkoda said:
nor have I seen the Despecialized versions of the original trilogy - I'm not sure I'd be able to spot the changes to warrant watching them.

you really should - its the only good way to watch the originals.

I'm a bit reluctant to watch TLJ again - i thought it was 'ok' in the cinema but i think i will like it a lot less a second time.
TFA was entertaining and felt like starwars - its just that the plot was a 'starwars' copy (i refuse to call it A New Hope, because thats not what its called

).
Rogue one i thought was crap with no likeable characters - it was also really badly edited and i wonder what the directors original cut was like because the 2nd half in particular was a mess.

oh yeah, and the prequels were irredeemable garbage.

Rroff · 15 Apr 2018 at 11:30

aardvark said:
Rogue one i thought was crap with no likeable characters - it was also really badly edited and i wonder what the directors original cut was like because the 2nd half in particular was a mess.

On the one hand they could have done a lot of work on the characters on the other hand it was kind of intended with the plot. The editing especially the last battle could have done with a ton of work but I didn't find anywhere really that I couldn't turn my brain off and just enjoy the spectacle. While TLJ that was impossible my mind was just constantly going "but... that makes no sense... but... that makes no sense... but... what a coincidence... wait what another coincidence already?!" which completely ruined any chance of enjoying it for me.

Scam · 16 Apr 2018 at 13:51

I was lucky enough to see Bob Ducsay, the editor of TLJ give a 30min interview/chat at the Avid booth at NAB last week. Not much insider information, but kinda fun to see. We also saw the editorial team for Stranger Things talk through how they cut a few scenes. Good fun

Efour · 17 Apr 2018 at 01:27

The phantom menace is still a better film overall than the last jedi by a loooooooong way.
For all it's flaws and facepalm moments it feels 50x more like starwars than TLJ.

I Dont know how they could make a good 3rd film now. There's literally no characters left that I remotely care if they live or die. I couldn't care less if the first order conquered the galaxy, don't seem bad to me at all. Equel opportunity employer with nice hats.

I don't get the rogue one hate. That was a great standalone. Decent enough disposable characters, kept inline with the original trilogy, and rebels. A few weird wtf moments, but that's is overlookable.

Mak3R · 17 Apr 2018 at 09:25

Efour said:
The phantom menace is still a better film overall than the last jedi by a loooooooong way.
For all it's flaws and facepalm moments it feels 50x more like starwars than TLJ.

I Dont know how they could make a good 3rd film now. There's literally no characters left that I remotely care if they live or die. I couldn't care less if the first order conquered the galaxy, don't seem bad to me at all. Equel opportunity employer with nice hats.

I don't get the rogue one hate. That was a great standalone. Decent enough disposable characters, kept inline with the original trilogy, and rebels. A few weird wtf moments, but that's is overlookable.

Tell that to the 3 or 4 planets they blew up in Ep7

PlacidCasual · 17 Apr 2018 at 10:39

Was anyone else miffed by how small it seemed the Galaxy was in TFA and TLJ. In the prequels for all there failings it gave the impression there was a much larger galaxy but TFA gave a much smaller seeming place the New Republic was.

Efour · 17 Apr 2018 at 11:08

Is the Blu-ray version uncut or do extra scenes come at the end?

Rroff · 17 Apr 2018 at 11:09

Don't think there is an extended type version - the extra content is tacked on at the end.

Rroff · 17 Apr 2018 at 11:15

Efour said:
I Dont know how they could make a good 3rd film now. There's literally no characters left that I remotely care if they live or die. I couldn't care less if the first order conquered the galaxy, don't seem bad to me at all. Equel opportunity employer with nice hats.

I don't get the rogue one hate. That was a great standalone. Decent enough disposable characters, kept inline with the original trilogy, and rebels. A few weird wtf moments, but that's is overlookable.

Heh with TLJ it is hard not to root for the bad guys LOL - other than that they are portrayed as so incompetent it hurts to think about it even by storm trooper standards.

There is plenty they could do with some of the characters though with a decent script and ignoring most of what was done with them in TLJ.

Rogue One managed to mix in a bit of a nod to the fans while doing something a bit stand alone which helped to redeem some of the not so good bits - while I'm not a Star Wars fan I did appreciate the easter eggs, etc. put in there - I think that is one of (several) reasons I'm so disappointed by TLJ - Rogue One felt like they'd almost got it figured out - a few more tweaks and it would have hit the mark - instead TLJ went 1000 steps backwards in every way other than the visual attention to detail. What I always liked about the original movies was the escapism with TLJ that was completely impossible.

aardvark · 17 Apr 2018 at 12:45

PlacidCasual said:
Was anyone else miffed by how small it seemed the Galaxy was in TFA and TLJ. In the prequels for all there failings it gave the impression there was a much larger galaxy but TFA gave a much smaller seeming place the New Republic was.

jj abrams has always had a problem with distance in space

glenimp617 · 17 Apr 2018 at 15:12

aardvark said:
jj abrams has always had a problem with distance in space

Yep, it's to do with rushing the scenes. Not just his movies, but in general.

You see, in the older star wars movies we had longer scenes of them chatting whilst flying to their destinations for example. In the news ones, they hit the hyperdrive and in the next scene they are landing on the planet!

Gerard · 17 Apr 2018 at 15:17

Spit · 17 Apr 2018 at 18:05

TheOracle said:
Yep, it's to do with rushing the scenes. Not just his movies, but in general.

You see, in the older star wars movies we had longer scenes of them chatting whilst flying to their destinations for example. In the news ones, they hit the hyperdrive and in the next scene they are landing on the planet!

Yeah that's why I love the old star trek movies, lots of dialogue instead of rushed scenes from explosion to explosion.

VincentHanna · 17 Apr 2018 at 18:13

I do like classic Trek movies

But the motion picture is awful!