Students = Cheap windows 7

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You cant install a 64 bit OS ontop of the 32 bit unless you format the partition with the 32 bit OS. Therefore its pointless installing XP.
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But, if I'm installing onto a brand new PC/HDD, then will the upgrade not work unless there is or has been an installation of a previous windows present? I can't just buy the student license, DL the ISO and put it into the new, empty pc can I? So confusing.

Sorry, I'm just trying to make sense of this too - from what I've read in the thread, people can't install 7 on a fresh drive unless they effectively install twice and 'upgrade their upgrade'.
 
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Silent Tristero said:
But, if I'm installing onto a brand new PC/HDD, then will the upgrade not work unless there is or has been an installation of a previous windows present? I can't just buy the student license, DL the ISO and put it into the new, empty pc can I? So confusing.

Sorry, I'm just trying to make sense of this too - from what I've read in the thread, people can't install 7 on a fresh drive unless they effectively install twice and 'upgrade their upgrade'.
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Yes, it will work. I did the same thing.

I had to perform a custom, clean install because my previous OS was 32-bit, it went very well, without any hitches or problems, and the key was accepted and activated fine, no problems.
 
Anyone fancy answering my post from two pages back?:
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"Has anyone tried installing onto a fresh out the box hard drive using the £9 'backup DVD'?"

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gasdoctor said:
Nope you cant do this.
You cant install a 64 bit OS ontop of the 32 bit unless you format the partition with the 32 bit OS. Therefore its pointless installing XP.

According to MS you can fresh install the 64OS. What upgrade actaully means is a bit of a mystery and not clearly explained. By upgrade I think they mean install a new OS and keep all your settings as oopose to a custom or clean install. Not you must own XP/vista, I didnt read anywhere it saying you must have a valid copy of a previous OS. Might be in the small print somewhere.

For those following the iso instructions, check the syntax especially the spaces and make sure your expanded folder is in the root of C.

Also this works for XP, not sure about vista (should do..but then vista is weird, which is why I went xp----> win7)
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The 'upgrade' merely means you are exchanging your license from an earlier version of Windows for Windows 7.

I've done 2 clean installs of Windows 7 using student keys, both involving formatting the hard drive first, so it can definitely be done. You certainly don't have to do an 'upgrade', keeping all the files and settings from the previous Windows installation.
 
hitman said:
Anyone fancy answering my post from two pages back?:
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"Has anyone tried installing onto a fresh out the box hard drive using the £9 'backup DVD'?"

this is what I want to know as well
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Not sure if anyone has recieved the DVD yet, I ordered it, but it will be redundant as I created a working ISO.

As for upgrading the licence Im not sure how it establishes that you own a licence for a previous version?
 
About to purchase Win 7 using the £30 Student Offer but not sure exactly what I will get. I currently have XP Pro retail so if I replace my pc with a new build I can reinstall my fully licenced version of XP Pro, If I purchase the student version does anyone know if I get the retail version and can move from pc to pc ( only on one pc at a time ), Also is it a download or do I get the full disk from Microsoft?
 
joroma said:
About to purchase Win 7 using the £30 Student Offer but not sure exactly what I will get. I currently have XP Pro retail so if I replace my pc with a new build I can reinstall my fully licenced version of XP Pro, If I purchase the student version does anyone know if I get the retail version and can move from pc to pc ( only on one pc at a time )
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The Windows 7 student offer where you can purchase either the Home Premium or Professional editions of Windows 7 for £30 are Upgrade licenses which means you need to have a Retail or an OEM license of either Windows XP or Windows Vista to qualify for this offer.

A Windows Retail license means that you can move Windows from one machine to another as long as you remove it from the first machine. An OEM license is slightly different in that once it is installed on a machine, it cannot be transferred from one system to another. Though, you can change any hardware component apart from the motherboard and you will still be correctly licensed.

If you have a Retail license of Windows XP or Windows Vista and you then purchase a Windows 7 Upgrade license, it effectively becomes a Windows 7 Retail license. You will be able to change the motherboard of that particular system that you have Windows 7 installed on and still be properly licensed.

Now, lets say for instance you have an OEM license of Windows XP or Windows Vista. If you purchase the Windows 7 Upgrade license, you then effectively have a Windows 7 OEM license which means you will not be able to change the motherboard of that particular system, just as if you hadn't installed Windows 7 in the first place and left Windows XP or Windows Vista in place.

Though, despite what I have just said above about what happens when you upgrade from an OEM license of either Windows XP or Windows Vista to Windows 7 using a Upgrade license, it only applies to machines in which you upgraded to Windows 7 from an OEM license of either Windows XP or Windows Vista. An Upgrade license is transferable which means you're still perfectly entitled to remove the copy of Windows 7 from the existing machine and then install it on a new machine, providing the new machine has a legitimate copy of a Retail or an OEM license of either Windows XP or Windows Vista.

Also, once you have installed Windows 7, from a licensing perspective, you will not be allowed to use the copy of Windows you upgraded from until you remove Windows 7 from that machine.
 
I know this has been asked a few times already but i'm planning on buying the W7 Pro 64 bit on the student £30 offer.
This will be installed on a freshly formatted HDD on my HP laptop (currently running Vista Home Premium 64 bit which it came with) so in effect a clean install. I understand i shouldnt have any problems with this, the "upgrade" quoted for the Student W7 does add doubts about whether you can do this or you have to "upgrade" another already installed OS?

Note I plan to transfer this version of W7 to another laptop when i upgrade the laptop in future (remove W7 and reinstall Vista HP 64 bit on my HP laptop prior to selling). Again would this be OK?
 
NickM said:
Just had an email from DR, here is a link for the download manager for the W7 x64 Pro ISO:
http://msft-dnl.digitalrivercontent.net/msvista/pub/dlm/DLMWin7Pro64UK-ISO.exe
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Thanks for this link, I ended up buying the W7 Pro 64 bit last night and d/l it from this link plus i also noticed it d/l's a DVD/USB ISO burning tool as well for easy creation of a bootable DVD or USB pen/HDD. ;)

Not sure what the normal link to the W7 d/l that they send you would d/l if this is the ISO? (its saved on my HDD as .ISO).
 
Received my backup DVD (to go with the one I created).

Its a holographic disc labeeled "back up disc".

No key with it though, so don't lose the one your emailed.

Havent tried to install from it as nothing to install on and dont want to reinstall.
It will be interesting to see what happens when I change components?
 
You cant go from XP 32 bit to W7 Pro 64 bit, you need to do a clean install.
Yes d/l from that link is best, it will d/l the ISO of W7 Pro 64 bit and a little program to help you brun it to your chosen media (DVD-R, USB stick etc).
 
I originally installed win7 by accident on to one partition, but when I went to create a new partition, there were unmovable files in the way.

So just done a clean install from the DVD backup disc.

No problems at all.
 
Received the DVD backup. So I decided to format and reinstall again.
Did so, entered the key.... and it worked fine :confused:
(Whereas with the download version it said it was an upgrade key etc etc).

Happy!
 
quick question if i had used the upgrade disk to install windows 7 and wanted to do another installation of it on the same hard drive, could i use the back up disk and do a clean install over it? Got some issues and figure the quickest way to fix them is to reinstall.


,thxs
 
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