I do think they will have to come down harder on him than they did last time as he has 're-offended'. I hope whatever they do they get it done soon, I don't think it'd be right if they tried to put it off for a while or until the WC has ended.
Poll: Suarez has to be banned for a year at least
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Above you've already admitted(and have done before) that the Ajax tackle is a potential career ender, and don't put words in my mouth. I did not say the next one is likely to be a career ender, I said it's as likely to be a horrendous tackle for which he has form as it is to be anything else.
He bit people three times, yet between them he's stamped on ankles, stamped on the back of a player... and that was all just this season. What he does next is anyone's guess, but it isn't statistically more likely to be another "harmless" (according to some) bite, but could just as easily be one of his career threateningly bad tackles.
He does try to break legs though, and stamp on ankles, the next attack is just as likely to be a leg breaking, career ending tackle as a bite, or a dive or handball to cost a team progression in a cup tournament or stamping on someone's ankle.
Look I put it there for you to see, the tackle that could easily have destroyed the guys career, and quoting where I said he is just as likely to do ANY of the nasty things he does on a football pitch.
As much as a few Liverpool fans want to make out bites aren't bad and other players don't need protecting. Allowing him back on the pitch has allowed him to attack basically a dozen + players since his last ban. Throughout the season he stamps on ankles, cheats, dives, and then he'll eventually bite again as well. Referee's are terrible, he should have received a red for the stamps(and there are others, Distin, he stamped on a players back VERY clearly on purpose, the Parker kick), he should even get yellows for dissent as he shouts and screams at ref's every single match.
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I agree with this, but also to use the scenario someone else mentioned, the Keane incident.
Keane should have been banned for a year for the Haaland incident. Suarez should have similar now.
They don't want shot of him at least they won't ever give that impression and if he got a 20 game ban then the interested party might as well pick him up a year later. They won't pay the wage for him to sit there for half the season.
Not to mention the lack of match fitness once you come back from a 20 game ban. Getting a ban is not a smart move to Suarez to initiate a move. It's just the antics of a retard with the self control of a 4 year old.
Apologies misread, not sure it's as likely as the others though, repeated many petty things and the bites, not anything the scale of that tackle.
Who's ankles did he stamp on this year and who's back?
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I think it is shocking that
1 - He is still denying it, he must know what he has done and must have seen the video footage
2 - His coach and country has said nothing ! The media must be swamping their hotel like vultures.
I think he needs not only a ban, he also needs intensive rehab treatment, anger management and perhaps prescription drugs.
Seeing he will do it again, as this is his 3rd time, so he will do it again, he either plays with a mask or have his teeth removed. A bit like a dog that might bite or a pet snake. Cruel? yes but why not if he is going to do it again ?
I mean even the doctors think so !
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28014468
But we all know it'll be lame, he'll get like 3 months ban, back at Christmas or thereabouts and then bang them in again. Part of me wishes next time he bites someone who will hit back and knock all his teeth out.
1 - He is still denying it, he must know what he has done and must have seen the video footage
2 - His coach and country has said nothing ! The media must be swamping their hotel like vultures.
I think he needs not only a ban, he also needs intensive rehab treatment, anger management and perhaps prescription drugs.
Seeing he will do it again, as this is his 3rd time, so he will do it again, he either plays with a mask or have his teeth removed. A bit like a dog that might bite or a pet snake. Cruel? yes but why not if he is going to do it again ?
I mean even the doctors think so !
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28014468
But we all know it'll be lame, he'll get like 3 months ban, back at Christmas or thereabouts and then bang them in again. Part of me wishes next time he bites someone who will hit back and knock all his teeth out.
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I've seen worse. Much worse. Football is littered with terrible, terrible tackles. So you've seen Suarez make one. So what. He didn't even injure the guy.
Check out this one... (or don't if you're faint of heart)
The guy got a 6 month suspended prison sentence for it. The other guy got his career finished. Guess what. No big bans (10 matches). And guess what... was signed by an English club afterwards. Where was the outcry then?
I understand people don't like Suarez, but the hand-wringing is absolutely laughable. It's like the plot to Of Mice and Men.
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This has nothing to do with liking Suarez or not. The simple fact is that Suarez has now done this 3 times. He obviously hasn't learnt from his previous bans. The only way he might possibly learn is to give him a huge ban so he realises the significance of what he's done. That's why it needs to be a minimum of 6 months IMO, he shouldn't be able to kick a ball anywhere until at least January 2015.
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I posted gifs of more than one bad tackle for one thing, and he did injure both Mirallas and Distin. If he injured someone or not, the intent is what matters. That the guy moved inches out of the way at the last second is not down to Suarez. Suarez's intent in that one tackle is incredible, he was trying to jump two footed with a lot of pace sideways through both the guys legs, that could easily have snapped both his legs if he hadn't moved. It is an utterly disgusting challenge.
You're using the outcome to decide if the tackle is worse or not. He has done MANY more than one bad tackle, that is just the worst(not in outcome, but intent and potential for damage).
As for whose back he stamped on, I can't quite remember, someone went down on the goal line basically maybe 6-10 yards from the goal post and he just stamped on him as he went past. For some reason I'm thinking europa league game.
yup... http://lockerdome.com/6169414371381313/5324107855168531
It's pretty clear how avoidable it was he both steps on his left leg and then goes down hard on his back.
Again, and again, and again and again with him. Other players do dreadful challenges, no one has said otherwise, most players learn and do not do it again, Suarez has shown absolutely no ability to alter his behaviour. It's a matter of time till he does another "Ajax" tackle because the man has zero self control, it could be the next bad thing he does, or he might dive 58 times, bite four more people and stamp on a bunch more people before he destroys someone's career... does that make it okay?
How many people have to be stamped on, bitten, spit at, racially abused, cheated against before someone stops him.
It should be pointed out that of the dozens of players he's done this to, they have the self restraint to not go up to Suarez and do the same to him.
You're using the outcome to decide if the tackle is worse or not. He has done MANY more than one bad tackle, that is just the worst(not in outcome, but intent and potential for damage).
As for whose back he stamped on, I can't quite remember, someone went down on the goal line basically maybe 6-10 yards from the goal post and he just stamped on him as he went past. For some reason I'm thinking europa league game.
yup... http://lockerdome.com/6169414371381313/5324107855168531
It's pretty clear how avoidable it was he both steps on his left leg and then goes down hard on his back.
Again, and again, and again and again with him. Other players do dreadful challenges, no one has said otherwise, most players learn and do not do it again, Suarez has shown absolutely no ability to alter his behaviour. It's a matter of time till he does another "Ajax" tackle because the man has zero self control, it could be the next bad thing he does, or he might dive 58 times, bite four more people and stamp on a bunch more people before he destroys someone's career... does that make it okay?
How many people have to be stamped on, bitten, spit at, racially abused, cheated against before someone stops him.
It should be pointed out that of the dozens of players he's done this to, they have the self restraint to not go up to Suarez and do the same to him.
I agree a long long ban is needed but whilst I know we had a councilor at club helping team and him it's clear it's something suarez needs all the time or some other forms of help to ease what ever in his mind causes his outbursts especially since he genuinely seems to think chilleni did something prior to the bite which isn't even in the replay!
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THe man who did this got a 10 game ban and it was seemingly his first offence, his club also suspended him for the rest of the season(seemingly around 6 months), after this the dutch government also decided he deserved a jail term.
First offence, horrendous behaviour, suspended jail sentence... did he do it again or did he basically never actually play for Wigan, or really anyone else, ever again? What would that guy have got if he did another bad tackle again, or if his next offence was to bite someone on the pitch?
Some people really can't quite get a grasp on the repeated nature of his offences being the reason for the outcry here, NOT the bite itself, the fact that the bite is on the end of an exceptionally long and varied list of despicable acts he's committed on the pitch. 10 games is a very long ban for a first offence in his second season in football. If he did it again it would likely be 20-30 matches if not a lifelong ban from football AND he would have probably had to serve that 6 month suspended + a term for the new offence.
If it was a dog that had bitten someone 3 times we all know what would happen, the fact that it's a human being who should be able to distinguish between right and wrong makes it far worse.
Take him out the back and give him the sleepy injection.
Take him out the back and give him the sleepy injection.
its everything to do with liking/not liking Suarez,
case in point Suarez gets 8 match ban for racial language against Evra, John Terry uses racist language against Anton Ferdinand and gets a 3 match ban. Surely what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Forget about the court case and remember the FA found both of them guilty of the same offence, using racist language, so why didn';t they both get the same punishment.
From the FA...
hmmmm so if he breached the same rules as Suarez why did Terry only see 3 game ban ????
Suarez is the bad boy that everyone needs to hate. Suarez goes down in the box, referee is already thinking that's a dive.
No one who is normal is going to look at anything Suarez does with an impartial view point, we all look at this with our pre loaded thoughts because it is Suarez. If this was any other player most of us would probably just go "meh seen worse" and move on to the next story.
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I don't recall saying the stamps were all this season either, and does it make it okay if they aren't this season? Do you have some kind of valid defence based on semantics and exactly when he did these things? He has throughout his career been a nasty piece of work, he will not stop he has proven this. Bans, fines, his own wife telling him he's crazy, he still does it constantly.
At what point is it enough and other players shouldn't be subjected to a mad man who is happy to stamp on their ankle on purpose to win.
Everyone accepts the risk of accidental injury, and everyone accepts and knows that anyone can have a mad moment and do something terrible, what people shouldn't accept is someone who repeatedly has mad moments, won't learn from them and is entirely happy to hurt other players.
If it was Shawcross, if he broke another guys leg after Ramsey, should he face being out of football, what about if he did it to 5 more guys, there should surely be a point where the other players safety is regarded a higher priority than Shawcross's career. I don't believe he meant to hurt Ramsey at all but if someone is reckless and stupid repeatedly and can't change his behaviour, when do you put the other players first, there surely has to be some point at which you say okay, too big a risk, you're done.
So how many people can Suarez get away with biting before it's finally okay to talk about a permanent ban? I presume you don't think if he bit a player every other game he should be allowed to continue, is one a season okay, is two a season too much, there has to be a point somewhere right, so where do you see it?
HA ha ha.