He's thrown horrible elbows, awful tackles and just ends up kicking people too
Poll: Suarez has to be banned for a year at least
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He's thrown horrible elbows, awful tackles and just ends up kicking people too
In my opinion, the man needs a year suspension to seek psychiatric help to resolve the anger issues that lead to him biting people. It's not like he's going into matches thinking, "hmmm.... which one for dinner?" it's all related to an anger issue. The biting side of it is purely a weird way of venting his frustration and he needs to learn to control his anger and deal with it in a different way.
They're still looking for a dentist that can pull all of his teeth out humanly.
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And Suarez has done all those above...he never got punished for them either !
What is shocking is he is still denying it, at least after the Ivanovic incident he came out and said he shouldn't have done it. This time he is showing no remorse at all and saying it is part of what happens in the box...
Wut?!
/no doubt people will compare biting to bad tackles from other players...
Look on this incident on the player and his history alone. Not what others did.
What is shocking is he is still denying it, at least after the Ivanovic incident he came out and said he shouldn't have done it. This time he is showing no remorse at all and saying it is part of what happens in the box...
Wut?!
/no doubt people will compare biting to bad tackles from other players...
Look on this incident on the player and his history alone. Not what others did.
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Jesus, the embarrassing amount of "Suarez might be a **** but 'player x' did something bad and no one cared about that " replies, lol, who said Mirallas doing a bad tackle was okay, no one. Who said Rooney doing bad things gets no coverage and no one cares, rubbish. Making up things to defend Suarez is embarrassing.
Really when Rooney elbowed the wigan guy there was no outrage at all, everyone ignored it because he's English, really? what planet are people living on, for all these incidents no one said they were fine at all. the outrage, precisely as with Suarez, matched the frequency and severity of the incidents. Someone doing one bad tackle very rarely is never seen as badly as someone doing something big or small repeatedly, constantly.
Barton threw a fairly small punch on Pedersen and yes, outrage, not because the punch was a haymaker and broke the guys jaw, not because it was the worst punch in football but because he just does one thing after another, after another, after another.
Rooney's a thug, and a cheat, and he's done more stupid things than probably most, wigan elbow thing, kick out while with England(forget who against exactly, was that the portugal thing?), quite a decent amount of dives and a couple bad tackles. But even so they are pretty few and far between though he should have received some bans/longer bans for some of them.
AS for the racist thing, Terry said something once, Suarez himself iirc said he said it a few times, then the pinching his skin and saying something again(which is why he ended up found guilty, because he lied and said he pinched his skin in a "joking" manor, which video evidence found to be entirely unjustified, it was that he lied specifically about why he did that which made them think he was lying to cover well, using racial slurs). They received the same punishments, but Suarez was punished for more counts, saying they gave different punishments and showed no consistency is merely being ignorant, purposefully ignorant, it's been fully explained and it's absolutely justified.
Really when Rooney elbowed the wigan guy there was no outrage at all, everyone ignored it because he's English, really? what planet are people living on, for all these incidents no one said they were fine at all. the outrage, precisely as with Suarez, matched the frequency and severity of the incidents. Someone doing one bad tackle very rarely is never seen as badly as someone doing something big or small repeatedly, constantly.
Barton threw a fairly small punch on Pedersen and yes, outrage, not because the punch was a haymaker and broke the guys jaw, not because it was the worst punch in football but because he just does one thing after another, after another, after another.
Rooney's a thug, and a cheat, and he's done more stupid things than probably most, wigan elbow thing, kick out while with England(forget who against exactly, was that the portugal thing?), quite a decent amount of dives and a couple bad tackles. But even so they are pretty few and far between though he should have received some bans/longer bans for some of them.
AS for the racist thing, Terry said something once, Suarez himself iirc said he said it a few times, then the pinching his skin and saying something again(which is why he ended up found guilty, because he lied and said he pinched his skin in a "joking" manor, which video evidence found to be entirely unjustified, it was that he lied specifically about why he did that which made them think he was lying to cover well, using racial slurs). They received the same punishments, but Suarez was punished for more counts, saying they gave different punishments and showed no consistency is merely being ignorant, purposefully ignorant, it's been fully explained and it's absolutely justified.
It isn't shocking, the guy is a ****ing clown, great guy off the pitch and all but when on it or to do with football he just doesn't care about anything bar winning.
Why wouldn't you look at what others did/how they were punished, its kind of how you would judge how he should be punished?
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Suarez has gotten away with FAR more than Rooney has, so your point doesn't stand. He did not get a ban for the stamp on the Zenit player.. they let him off. He did NOT get a ban for his incredibly obvious stamp on Distin, nor Mirallas, nor the Wigan(iirc) guy.
FA/UEFA tend NOT to punish players on most occasions and Suarez has gotten away with more than almost anyone else.
They've only given Suarez bans when he's done completely unjustifiable things, completely out of the ordinary things. Terry got a ban for racial abuse, as have other players, as did Suarez. Suarez got a ban for biting, deservedly, and most players get away with MOST of their bad tackles, including Suarez. There is no disparity.
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Who else has bitten other players on the pitch 3 times?!
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It's clear why he's denying it, after the last incident he's spent the year talking about how he's changed, won't do it again, how he's finally seen the light, how he's changed because of his family, etc, etc. If he admits he did it... then even if he did somehow change he could only say the same things as last time and no one would believe him.
He's probably prayed there weren't good angles of it and there wasn't obvious bite marks and taken a chance, because admitting it just makes him an untrustworthy liar who will never be believed again. unfortunately for him the evidence is damning, anyone with a brain realised he hadn't changed and was lying.
There are plenty other acts of violence on the pitch that can be used as the bar for how the punishment should be set or because its an unusual act of violence we should just punish it far heavier than more manly punches/elbows/attempts on players legs?
Can you explain the whole 'this year' thing from the previous page?
LoLThe old Liverpool defence. But...but Man Utd blafblahblahblah!!!!
You really have no argument when it comes to how Man Utd are treated by the FA compared to other clubs.
The old Liverpool defence. But...but Man Utd blafblahblahblah!!!!
You really have no argument when it comes to how Man Utd are treated by the FA compared to other clubs.
You got away with bribing refs for years
Liverpool fans in here are clear as day. Nobody is saying intentionally kicking and stamping on people is less than a bite with regards to severity. All of those are heinous acts and should be punished accordingly, if there is proof of intent.
In Suarez' case, you can't accidentally bite someone, but you can accidentally take someone out with a bad two footed challenge. The fact hes bitten three times just shows he isn't going to change unless the hammer is brought down hard.
In Suarez' case, you can't accidentally bite someone, but you can accidentally take someone out with a bad two footed challenge. The fact hes bitten three times just shows he isn't going to change unless the hammer is brought down hard.
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Are you suggesting he should go on celebrity Homes Under the Hammer?
That's about the crux of it. As much as I want to defend Roy Keane, he should have felt the full wrath of what the FA could have done for intentionally setting out to hurt another player.
I think that's part of the problem here. As football as never dealt with violent conduct properly, it's partly diluting the seriousness of Suarez's actions.
I still think six months plus therapy, but also harsher punishments for anyone found to intentionally set out to hurt another player.
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This is fun. Where is the subscribe option for this thread?
The main issue here is that after being punished for doing the same heinous thing twice he has done it again and is showing no sign of changing, at some point you have to give him a lengthy ban to hopefully get him to reassess his behaviour and try to change it.
I have sympathy for Liverpool because if he gets a blanket ban they will be the ones most hurt as a result.
I have sympathy for Liverpool because if he gets a blanket ban they will be the ones most hurt as a result.