Poll: Suarez has to be banned for a year at least
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I know it's a completely different sport.
What were Mike Tyson's bans/fines for his 2 offences?
Bare in mind this is now Suarez's 3rd offence and in a sport where physically hurting the opponent isn't really the point so a lot worse IMO.
What were Mike Tyson's bans/fines for his 2 offences?
Bare in mind this is now Suarez's 3rd offence and in a sport where physically hurting the opponent isn't really the point so a lot worse IMO.
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I'd be very surprised if it was only a 2-3 game ban for normal violent conduct, did they say Song got a 4 game ban for his elbow, which wasn't really bad, just stupid and odd.
But the FA gave Suarez a 10 game ban for the second bite because they specifically stated they were taking into account he has bitten someone before. Fifa should, hopefully, take into account the two previous bites even if not all his previous conduct.
FA/Fifa are a bit weird about bans for the same offence, ie in the league you can get a red + 3 game ban for violent conduct, but you would only get a 1 game red for then getting two yellows, they don't add on. If you get a second red for two yellow cards, then it would be a 2 game ban, if you got another red for violent conduct it would be a 4 game ban. They are really into increasing punishment for the same offence(or bracket of offences). Which works heavily in Suarez's favour seeing as he's an equal opportunity offender, no matter the offence he does it just as often
If FA/Fifa ever added up all his wrong doing and then decided on a ban, it would have to be passed down all the way through to his great grandchildren to see it out.
Fifa may punish it in isolation to the world cup or internationals and not take into account the other bites, who knows. Fifa/FA/Uefa make up the rules for these things. I hope how they are reacting to it counts against them.
You could see it written all over Suarez's face after they qualified that he knew how much **** he was in. I mean look at how happy he was against Ghana in south africa, banned for the next game yet bouncing around like a jackass when they went through. This time, looked like someone killed his cat.
But he hasn't admitted it, in fact still denies it, his lawyers are denying it. Even in the court of law you get 1/3rd off your sentence if you enter an early guilty plea, looks like he might fight this one to the end.
It's a shame really, he'll forever be remembered as that footballer who bites people on the pitch.
It says A Lot
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Bare in mind he also hasn't torn anyone's ear off or drawn blood at all. Biting isn't any more acceptable in boxing either regardless of the intent of the match.
We were just talking about this point at work. If you, me or anyone else did that we would be locked up, or at least put under psychiatric assessment and treated through care in the community!
Think he was banned for a year (in 97/98) with a year of parole
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/columnists/article-231540/Life-ban-farce-Tyson-plans-comeback-year.html
(didnt read the whole thing admittedly lol)
Remember the Newcastle punch up a few years ago (Barton was in the thick of it I think lol) - Civil court I seem to recall couldnt do anything within the boundaries of the pitch.
(They might have got a slap on the wrist, I cant honestly remember - but very little happened)
My bad it was Boyer-Dyer lol
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/2357605/Newcastle-stunned-by-Bowyer-punch-up.html
In April 2005, Bowyer was in the media spotlight again after an on-pitch brawl with teammate Kieron Dyer in Newcastle United's Premiership match with Aston Villa. This resulted in a red card, plus an automatic three-game ban, for each player. The Football Association fined Bowyer £30,000 and imposed an additional three-game ban, and the club fined him six weeks' wages; Dyer was not fined as Bowyer was perceived to have thrown the first punch. In addition, Bowyer was charged by Northumbria Police in connection with the brawl with offences under section four of the Public Order Act. He pleaded guilty to the lesser charge of using threatening behaviour and was fined £600 and ordered to pay £1000 costs
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Yep:
Luis Suarez "must face a severe sanction" if he is found to have bitten an Italian player during a World Cup match, a senior Fifa official has told Sky News.
http://news.sky.com/story/1288800/fifa-suarez-must-face-severe-sanction
I wonder what it'll be, given the unpredictable nature of football governing bodies, it's hard to predict.
Bad tackles are usually not deliberate and those that are are usually impossible to prove, looking at the evidence there's no doubt that Suarez tried to bite him and for that there is simply no excuse.
I think the response is such because biting is considered to be very primitive/vulgar and not befitting the civilised world, the closest comparison I can think of is El Hadji Diouf and his spitting antics... biting another player is just as disgusting and potentially more harmful.
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I like him to wear a mask for the rest of his career, for others sake, doctor's orders, like Petr Cech and his helmet.
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oh god please give up, we know your a liverpool fan and your going to defend him to the death but give over.
it's his 3rd offence of the exact same nature, first time offence - no problem slap on wrists, second offence lengthy ban, third offence time to throw the book at him he's obviously not learning that it's unacceptable.
boxing as everyone knows is basically a fight with certain rules. the whole point of it is to beat the other guy up using physical force from your fists.
yes biting is unacceptable obviously and it's against the rules but i would honestly think causing physical harm by illegal means in a sport like football is looked more harshly upon than a sport that revolves around causing physical harm.
if it were up to me 5 year ban which will be appealed no doubt then brought down to 3 years after appeal.
seems fair to me for such a violent act on a fellow player. i'd have no problem with someone snapping his legs in half now with it being his third offence. the first 2 times i was willing to overlook the matter but he clearly has zero respect for other players, so his legs are fair game to others IMO.
In Europe it's seen to be primitive but not in South America it seems..
Give up what? You're saying what Suarez did is much worse because its in football and not boxing. Both are absolutely shocking but Suarez hasn't taken part of an ear off and biting is no more acceptable in boxing than it is in football regardless of the objectives of the sport.
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The Liverpool fans are just scared they won't have their best players for the champions league, and will never will the league without him next season and his value has just plummeted if they want to sell him.
Suarez has made them all looked stupid for sticking by him because he has done it again, if they sticking by him yet again then it's more than just Suarez who needs his head checked.
Suarez has made them all looked stupid for sticking by him because he has done it again, if they sticking by him yet again then it's more than just Suarez who needs his head checked.
Hahahaha, that's superb
Definitely looks like he was going for it too. Seriously hope the club force him to get some counselling once he's back before the season starts if he stays, managed to go a year fine for us and inside two games away he's bitten someone and looks like he tried to do it last summer after being banned for doing it a couple of months earlier...