Poll: Suarez has to be banned for a year at least

The the ban fair?

  • Scouser: Fair

    Votes: 11 3.0%

  • Other: Fair

    Votes: 64 17.4%

  • Scouser: Too lenient

    Votes: 7 1.9%

  • Other: Too lenient

    Votes: 228 62.0%

  • Scouser: Too harsh

    Votes: 13 3.5%

  • Other: Too harsh

    Votes: 22 6.0%

  • manyoo fans: derp

    Votes: 23 6.3%
  • Total voters
    368
I don't really want to hop on the blame wagon because it's exactly the kind of sideshow the apologists want to distract from the issue. I'm a United fan so I don't have much room to talk anyway. The unflattering reality is a football club has a lot of conflicting interests to deal with and I can accept that to a certain degree.

Although if Liverpool come out and defend him I take it all back because then they really will have lost the plot. But to be fair to a lot of Liverpool fans I've spoken to none of them have subscribed to the fanatical apologist/conspiracy/denial thing.
 
jakeke said:
Wat? He'd bitten twice and had a racism charge and that wasn't enough for Liverpool, it's only logical he'd continue his bad behaviour, I knew it, you did and so did Liverpool. If you give someone a contract who you know is hugely liable to get a new ban, don't be surprised when he gets his new ban, and certainly do expect sympathy
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Give over you are just using this to have a go at the club. Apart from mutu* (drugs related) How many clubs have sold their star player for bad behavior? Your fake concern is just an excuse to have a go at liverpool fc. Its that simple. Hell you've been awol from the forums but surprise, surprise you make a return for the suarez incident.:o

*mutu star player debatable
 
elmuzzy66. said:
Give over you are just using this to have a go at the club. Apart from mutu (drugs related) How many clubs have sold their star player for bad behavior? Your fake concern is just an excuse to have a go at liverpool fc. Its that simple. Hell you've been awol from the forums but surprise, surprise you make a return for the suarez incident.:o
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Players are sold for bad behaviour all the time. Boateng and Muntari were sent home like 2 days ago if you want a recent example, Ghana's two biggest stars. I'm not concerned or fake concerned, the matter was dealt with appropriately, I am just surprised (should I be?) by some Uruguay and Liverpool fan reactions, and think that it perpetuates his behaviour. If you don't agree with my point then we are on different wavelengths, Liverpool gave a contract to a madman and are now surprised he's being a madman again, it's weird. FWIW uruguay have reacted worse than anybody, it's shameless.

I'm making a world cup return, I can't believe anybody has noted my absence in the first place.

Just an edit - when he bit at Ajax they were disgusted, they banned him themselves as they didn't feel the league sanction was enough and iirc he never played in an ajax shirt again. Yes, he was their star player. What do you think to that?
 
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Because sending players away from the national squad is the same as selling your player. Bad example totally different outcomes. Yes Liverpool gave a new contract to secure a price if they didn't get cl. No i do not agree with you that giving him a new contract was condoning his conduct in any shape or form. Anyways it fake courage to send players away from a national squad that had very little chance of getting through to the next round.
 
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elmuzzy66. said:
Because sending players away from the national squad is the same as selling your player. Bad example totally different outcomes. Yes Liverpool gave a new contract to secure a price if they didn't get cl. No i do not agree with you that giving him a new contract was condoning his conduct in any shape or form. Anyways it fake courage to send players away from a national squad that had very little chance of getting through to the next round.
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Ok, and when Ajax sold Suarez? I feel that's relevant.
 
elmuzzy66. said:
Give over you are just using this to have a go at the club. Apart from mutu* (drugs related) How many clubs have sold their star player for bad behavior? Your fake concern is just an excuse to have a go at liverpool fc. Its that simple. Hell you've been awol from the forums but surprise, surprise you make a return for the suarez incident.:o

*mutu star player debatable
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They didn't sell the player, they gave him a huge ******* raise and a new contract though.......

He had a contract, it wasn't up they gave him more money after getting yet another ban. It's hard to fire players, though it has happened, but to reward him with a huge salary increase is a completely different matter. Hey, you missed 1/4 of the season from a needless ban because you can't control yourself, how about extending his contract and saying you'll give him less a week, with some of that back if he behaves... nope, just a flat out huge increase despite epically unprofessional behaviour. They rewarded his bite at Ajax by buying him and giving him more money then, then they did it again. Regardless of missing was it 18 games because of his two bans just at liverpool, they gave him a pay bump, not a decrease. Not massive warnings, not an incentive to stop ******* around, just more money.

It's like a kid who does something wrong, saying no while handing him a treat every time he does something wrong, it is beyond stupid and suggesting it's anything to do with someone having a go at Liverpool is equally stupid.

I said the same thing about Arsenal, different situation but Adebayor spent the entire summer begging to leave, talking about moving to Milan etc, then despite being on 40k a week and having a contract we gave him double the salary as a reward for behaving like a prat, and doing your best to leave a club isn't in the same ballpark as a second bite with a racism charge in the middle with a whole bunch of nasty stamps that particular season as well.

It IS categorically stupid of Liverpool to reward his worst season behaviour wise with a huge raise.
 
We have to face it, unless you are Barca or Madrid (and to a lesser extent BM) - every single player is an investment the club HAS TO protect incase / for when he is sold to a bigger club
 
elmuzzy66. said:
For the record i want him sold. but i don't see why Liverpool is at fault for the conduct of their player on international games.
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I don't understand what you mean, Liverpool aren't at fault in any way and have not been punished in any way. Suarez did wrong and has been duly punished.
 
Lord-Jaffa said:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/0/football/28069689

"I lost my balance, making my body unstable and falling on top of my opponent," wrote Suarez in his defence to Fifa.

"At that moment I hit my face against the player leaving a small bruise on my cheek and a strong pain in my teeth."
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Ah yes, probably the only case in football history of an accidental collision inflicting a bite mark on an opponent just so happens to involve the guy who's notorious for biting other players.

It's actually interesting to see a Big Lie like this in action (and working)
 
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