Isn't that a bit ridiculous if they can do that and not inform the club?
Might as well just charge me for raping my next door neighbour and claim, yeah we don't need to release our findings to prove you guilty?
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Isn't that a bit ridiculous if they can do that and not inform the club?
Might as well just charge me for raping my next door neighbour and claim, yeah we don't need to release our findings to prove you guilty?
I didn't think you could appeal the charge, just the length of the ban. Could be wrong
because it's toss. Maybe you're happy to lay the blame of all those Liverpool fans calling Evra a yuletide ******* because the FA didn't get an independent commision to release a statement within 48 hours. or maybe we could just drop the professional victim act for a moment and look at the real issue, which, if it was a cultural misunderstanding an apology could have rectified. Or you could pretend there's a witch hunt.
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Remember of course "using racist language" and "being a racist" are different things entirely (according to the law, from what I understand)
so just because someone is found guilty of one doesnt automatically make him guilty of the other (far worse) crime.
As with everything the media make things into quick lil soundbites and go from that - doesnt actually mean thats got anything to do with what the man on the street thinks
FA have undoubtedly ****** this case up by not releasing the papers - but I also hope even with the proposed length of ban being set to 8 matches, it will show all clubs and all players how tough the FA will now HAVE to be in the future
Im sure the ban will probably come down to 5 matches or so on appeal (which of course apply to FA Cup / League Cup also), so he may miss as few as 3 league games (which given his appearances so far this season he might need anyway) - could be far worse
While this is totally correct - surely the reasoning behind the verdict still has to be known to appeal the length of ban also? (Admittedly I was under the impression that most appeals compared similar cases to the one in question to hopefully lessen the ban - but as this would be impossible in this case, as its the first of its kind, the club has to have something to go off to appeal?)
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This is where the problem lies. By not releasing the documents the FA have allowed the media and public to assume Suarez is a racist leaving everyone open to lawsuits for defamation of character and libel should it be proved he's not.
The real issue is that it might have been a cultrual misunderstanding? The real issue might have been that Suarez intentionally racially abused Evra or that he might have said nothing wrong at all. Until the report is released, we know nothing other than Evra's allegations to base our own opinion on.
Obviously regardless of what's in the report, we'll still have idiots on both sides either labeling Suarez as a racist or Evra a liar. You'd hope that once the report is out that the amount of idiots would be far less though.
so, pretty much as I said, the real issue was the original incident.
Of course we wouldn't be in this position had there not been the original incident but the way in which it's been handled by the FA, from the time it took them to interview the players to the time it took them to schedule and carry out the hearing, has only fueled the fire. To then announce their decision without any explanation, not even to the players in question, and for that explanation to possibly be weeks away is ridiculous.
A lot of people that have criticised Suarez may change their opinion once they see the report and what he's been charged with saying and/or the evidence against him, equally a lot of people that have defended him may change their mind for the same reasons. Until then, a large amount of people will either believe Suarez is a racist or that Evra is a liar, despite the fact that neither might be true.
Purdy. I don't think the club has come out of this very well.
Shame
To be honest, i don't think the club really cares what you think
Purdy. I don't think the club has come out of this very well.
Shame
I'm sure if they are right about what they believe in the Suarez situation they will, there is nothing to have come out of yet, it seems as though it has barely begun with the FA delaying these papers for some reason.
can you be sued for being ignorant?
The media may have to print (or film) retractions , but I cant see it going further
Is this more serious than a (I know its practically unheard of lol) faithful footballer being accused of having an affair - or slander?
Its a more unique case yes - is it more serious in the wider world (not just from a football pitch pov)? I dont know
The FA may well be idiots in a lot of ways, but to even attempt (before appeal) to give a player an 8 game ban for not saying anything wrong.........sorry thats stretching things a little far lol
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To be honest, i don't think the club really cares what you think
why's that? Is he black or something?
Providing they've not accused/labeled him as something he's not been charged with then there's no need to worry. The time in between a guilty verdict and (if/)when the decision is overturned, claiming he's guilty of what he's been found guilty of is fine.
However you can't, as many have done, accuse him or label him as something he's not even been charged with. Unless those people can prove he is/has done what they've stated then they are in danger of lawsuits if Suarez (or anybody else in that position) wished and he wouldn't need any defense at all.
Any particular Journalists or news agencies you can point out? I've seen a lot of condemnation of the comment and particularly liverpool fc's reaction but can't recall anyone coming out and saying he's an out and out racist. in need of education maybe but really the bad reaction has been to liverpool's irresponsible press response.
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