That is why its there...what happens when the City owners get bored?
no one should be behind clubs lying about commercial revenue tbh
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That is why its there...what happens when the City owners get bored?
no one should be behind clubs lying about commercial revenue tbh
Not much. Any future spending would have to reduce but they won't go broke. They create enough legitimate revenue to cover their wages and day to day costs.
I've said it 100 times before on this forum, FFP was first talked about to prevent clubs racking up huge debts (doesn't apply to City) but the historical big clubs didn't want that and pressured UEFA to change it to what it became, to protect them from another Chelsea, City or PSG.
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6 year contract, what a plonka!
Still he's rich enough but at 28 he's also old enough to basically forgo winning any serious silverware.
160m is an outrageous price anyway it would only be a fools gold to buy that.
Still he's rich enough but at 28 he's also old enough to basically forgo winning any serious silverware.
160m is an outrageous price anyway it would only be a fools gold to buy that.
Do they? Do we even know what's legitimate at this point?
Yes and yes. They make circa £250m from PL and CL TV money, £50m odd from matchday revenue and comfortably £100m+ from legit commercial revenue. City are now in a position where they could comfortably turnover £450m without any dodgy UAE deals. It wouldn't be enough for them to sign Kane and Grealish but equally they wouldn't go bust without AD.
Feel very sorry for Grealish at the moment. He knows that if he goes we'll be hobbling along for a season or two and will struggle to ever really find his like again (local lad to get behind with such talent and promise of more to come), but for that sort of money the club might well be leaning on him pretty hard to go regardless of what the team or the fans think. Then there's all the fan backlash that's occurring even now. As much as I love the club and think we're on the up, we don't have any silverware heading our way anytime soon and he knows it. At the end of the day that's what every talented player wants.
If it is indeed a case of MC grabbing either Kane OR Grealish I just can't see them going for the former.
If it is indeed a case of MC grabbing either Kane OR Grealish I just can't see them going for the former.
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They've got a ton of world class midfielders but a donkey upfront. Of the two, Kane's the only one that would make them a much better team.
I think Grealish is certainly malleable enough to play up front reliably and often. Kane has that consistency built into his stats but I don't think he's ever been as fluid as Grealish. I'm bias though, naturally.
I like how we have to quantify "legit" revenue. If City want Kane and Grealish they'll find a way, and there is seemingly nothing anyone can do about it.
City are almost meme levels of dodginess. Their team of players and coaching staff are brilliant, but their trophies are hollow and tainted.
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Well the point was about whether City would go under if AD walked away, hence why I seperated out the money they get via AD.I like how we have to quantify "legit" revenue. If City want Kane and Grealish they'll find a way, and there is seemingly nothing anyone can do about it.
City are almost meme levels of dodginess. Their team of players and coaching staff are brilliant, but their trophies are hollow and tainted.
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They've broke FFP rules but FFP rules are a load of ****. Why is City receiving funding from their owners any different to Jack Walker putting money into Blackburn or Utd raising money by floating on the stock exchange?
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Kane not shown up for training again
He didn't bother turning up to the euros either so not surprised.
Because when you float a company on the stock exchange its price is based on the underlying value of the company and you own a percentage of the company. You don't have to do anything and ignoring your part ownership or stepping away from it won't cause massive financial upheaval for the club. City are now in a position where they could survive for a while if the owners stepped back but I would wager they would slip back into just being one of the top 6 quite quickly due to not being able to replace their star players. If it happened a few years ago I don't know.
I would rather Man City didn't have a sugar daddy owner but ultimately if you want to muscle in on the traditional elite its the only real way to do it and having clubs which are almost guaranteed success due to their finances makes for a boring league. Its always going to happen so at least now there are usually 4 + teams with serious financial clout.
And who dictates the value of the company? The investors. There is fundementally no difference to what AD have done at City to what numerous clubs have done over the years, we're just seeing it on a bigger scale. They've funded the growth of the club just like Utd did when they floated, just like Blackburn when Jack Walker pumped cash into them, what Leicesters owners did when Leicester were out of the PL, Moshiri at Everton, all the way down to Neville and Peter Lim at Salford.
As for your second sentence about being able to step away without causing a massive financial upheaval, I assume you're forgetting your own club when all those small (and large) shareholders sold their shares in Utd to the Glazers?
And yes, without the investment they'd fall back into the pack but prior to the investment they were struggling to be a stable PL side. AD have grown City and have actually turned them into a valuable asset (they raised outside investment for the entire City group at a near $5bn valuation fairly recently) as well as being a political, marketing tool.
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The owners have to put the money in there and then, some sort of buffer bank account for players amortisation. They get bored, they don't leave the club in any debt what so ever. They wouldn't have to fiddle the books to lie about C.R, if they'd allow the owners to put just move money across.
That's just the way it is now, states are sportswashing and it's not going to end any time soon.