His wages I imagine will be quite high
Summer Transfer Window 23/24
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His wages I imagine will be quite high
Our new sporting director's son has just got the sporting director's job at Gladbach too. If he doesn't give his Dad a discount then he'll be getting a smacked arse.
I'm not sure why our need for a more combative defensive midfielder changes our need for a player like Mac Allister. We need both and as I mentioned in my last post, all the links are pointing towards us also signing a powerhouse midfielder that will get around the pitch, making tackles and interceptions too.
If we were still playing the old 3 man midfield then I'd agree that our priority had to be a Caicedo type above all else but the change of system makes it less important, or at least no more important than signing 8's. Fabinho's job is a lot easier now that he's got Trent sat alongside him and we don't really have many options for the two 8 roles. Henderson's filling in there but he's not got the attacking qualities to be a long term option and then it's just Jones & Elliott.
He's not even fun to listen to in English
I'm undecided - I'd hope that Klopp has learned that, with his style, going for a midfield which is overly technical doesn't work, and Macallister is certainly more physical than Thiago. But I agree that I'd prefer Caicedo.
Edit: There's an interesting article on the Athletic that we've got a bit of an issue with homegrown players, exacerbated by Milner and Ox leaving, and that we really need to sign someone with that status. Apparently Zieler has it having started at United, so he'd be a handy signing.
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Soldato
Long term stability over a short term gamble on glory most clubs (Arsenal being a prime example) would choose the same thing in the absence of the unlimited budget available to some.
Iirc Curtis Jones can take the place of Ox or Milly as he's over 21 now, the real issue is that if kelleher goes (big possibility) we could be looking at some cheap replacement as the others aren't anywhere near ready to be no 2 imo, and I can't think of anyone that would be happy with either Ziegler or adrian. Maybe Clarkson could come in although he is only 21 so could be too young.
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Caporegime
Pretty much all the top teams struggle with homegrown players because there simply aren't that many good English players. Couple that with how hard it is to bring players through from the youth teams into a top team and how much money the smaller teams in this league have and it's a small pool that are all very expensive.
Ours are currently:
Rashford
Sancho
Greenwood*
Garnacho**
McT*
Maguire*
Shaw
AWB
Heaton*
Henderson*
Williams*
*Six of those might end up leaving this summer for various reasons. **Garnacho technically counts but he currently doesn't have to be registered anyway.
Ours are currently:
Rashford
Sancho
Greenwood*
Garnacho**
McT*
Maguire*
Shaw
AWB
Heaton*
Henderson*
Williams*
*Six of those might end up leaving this summer for various reasons. **Garnacho technically counts but he currently doesn't have to be registered anyway.
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Really going to be an issue if we sigh him
Every time I hear him mentioned on a Youtube video the Amazon Echos in my house chirp up and start telling me random stuff
‘Various reasons’
My understanding of the issue is that we had a full non homegrown quota of 17 last season. We're losing Keita, Bobby and Arthur, so have 3 spots to spare. Which, unless we buy u21s or homegrown, limits us to 3 incoming players (which might have to include a reserve keeper if Kelleher goes).
It might be that we only want 3 first squad players in the door anyway, but I think ideally we'd get at least 2 midfielders, a defender, possibly a left back (although presumably only if Tsimikas goes) and possibly a keeper. In short, it's not a drastic problem, but it is potentially restrictive
It’s probably one of the reasons we signed Adrian again as I believe he doesn’t count against us for the homegrown quota.
And yet for years everyone keeps telling me that all the foreigners have improved the English players. I've yet to see any evidence that it's any better than when we only allowed three foreigners. yes the PL standard has gone up, but it's got very little to do with English players.
There’s no doubt the standard of English player has improved, the issue is the big clubs cant afford to develop young English players unless they’re truly exceptional like Foden or Trent. If they’re not quite good enough yet they get loaned out or sold to lower clubs because they can’t afford the mistakes, bad judgement and poor decision making that young players are prone to while developing. One mistake could mean CL elimination or not making the CL completely which can mean £100m or more in lost revenue. So they buy a proven foreign player instead.
I think you've found the solution to the issue with your comment re Tsimikas. Beyond signing 3 midfielders, we're not going to sign more players without others leaving.
I think we'll sign a CB and possibly another CB/defender but they'll be linked to other players leaving. I think in an ideal world the club would like both a right and left sided CB who are comfortable playing in fullback positions but signing both would mean Matip and Kostas leaving.
You may well be right, but in the event that we want a new CB - which I think we do - we will have to get rid of Matip to bring one in, which ties our hands quite significantly in the market and puts us in something of a catch 22. Do we sell Matip and risk not being able to bring in a replacement? Or do we bring in a replacement and risk not being able to sell Matip?
I'm not saying that any of the issues are insurmountable, but it ties our hands more than is ideal.
Soldato
Matip was a free transfer, i'm sure you'll be able to push him on.
The two deals will go hand in hand though. We're not going to sell Matip unless we have a deal lined up to sign a replacement.
The fact that Adrian is looking like he's about to sign a new contract (getting a homegrown 3rd choice keeper should be easy) tells me the club aren't particularly worried about the home grown stuff.
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