Summer Transfer Window 23/24

BaZ87 said:
we would have been signing somebody (within reason) that you could be confident was going to be our long term answer for that position. It would have been expensive but at least you'd have boxed off that position for the foreseeable future and long term would have been cheaper than paying £50m+ on x and then having to pay another £50m+ to replace him in 12 months time.
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This is what worries me about Havertz, a couple of weeks back I saw some somewhat worrying statement that Arteta wasn't sure himself how best to utilise him (I'd assumed he would have been signed as part of an Arteta masterplan with a clear nugget on how to get the best out of him). He could easily end up as someone who sticks around for a couple of years and then heads back to Germany for £30m or whatever. Could be another Pepe scenario (although I would hope the manager is more bought into his arrival, with Pepe iirc the situation was Emery wanted Zaha but the board wanted Pepe). Contrasted to Rice who was more expensive but you'd expect to be made a lynchpin of the Arsenal midfield for 5+ years.
 
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HangTime said:
This is what worries me about Havertz, a couple of weeks back I saw some somewhat worrying statement that Arteta wasn't sure himself how best to utilise him (I'd assumed he would have been signed as part of an Arteta masterplan with a clear nugget on how to get the best out of him). He could easily end up as someone who sticks around for a couple of years and then heads back to Germany for £30m or whatever. Could be another Pepe scenario. Contrasted to Rice who was more expensive but you'd expect to be made a lynchpin of the Arsenal midfield for 5+ years.
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There’s nothing coming from him for us. Arsenal make a lot of good signings, but we do have a habit of making some very expensive stinkers of a signing every now and then, I think he’s definitely one.
 
I'll give him the benefit of the doubt as it's early days (remember it took Bergkamp a while to get going) but the real issue I have with big-money signings is you are expecting something close to the finished article that will deliver consistently from day 1 or near enough. They need to be having a good match 3-4 times out of 5.
Last year we had Jesus and Zinchenko who weren't cheap but at under £50m you can cut them a bit of slack.

Pepe is a £72m player who is not even making the bench, that's not good enough. Arsenal aren't going to move forward with 'mid' signings to pad out the squad, I think we either need proper good players that improve the first XI (example: Rice) or exciting prospects on the cheaper end of the scale that might develop into something (example: Martinelli). Although I say that and realise that Trossard and Jorginho were 'mid' signings who've actually worked out OK, so maybe I'm talking ******** :D They were under £40m combined though so less of a disaster if it doesn't work out compared to Kai.
 
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Chelsea have announced Deivid Washington has joined on a seven-year deal from Santos
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Just another nonsense deal to get "round FFP". Another player in 12/18 months time will be just a statistic at Chelsea, then loaned out no doubt
 
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