Summer Transfer Window 23/24

Reports suggest our bid for Rice was £80m + £10m add ons, payable over 6 years.

We‘re a joke in the transfer market :rolleyes:
A lot of Arsenal's spending over the last few seasons has been on the never never. They owe other clubs a lot of money which will impact their ability to pay big lump sums this summer.
 
In the modern era there is way too much gossip (or rather gossip being jammed down our throats). 30 years ago it was actually interesting checking out teletext / papers / radio5 because it was in moderation rather than just 5+ players linked with every club. I think everyone who posts a "how club X could lineup next season!!" with a fictional XI should have to pay £1000 to charity unless all the players end up at the club.

You also rarely get any surprises these days. I remember listening to the radio after school one day when it was announced Andy Cole had joined MU from Newcastle. That was a real shock but nowadays you'd know a week in advance.

I was at uni in Newcastle at the time Cole moved, I can remember hordes of distraught Geordies stood outside Rumbelows watching the news on the TVs to rent in dismay.
 
He’s 19 and just come off a long injury layoff. Probably wise to give him a year or two of solid football elsewhere. Don’t think it means it’s the end of his Liverpool career.
Just basing it off of what normally happens when we put someone on a season long loan, there arent many young players that we've loaned out who then ended up having a career with us. Not many at all. Generally speaking if Klopp thinks they are up to scratch he keeps them around and plays them, if he doesnt think that , he puts them out on loan and a year or two later they get sold. Just look at how many younger players went on loan and have now left the club, compared to how many didnt go on loan and are still here. Its almost like the loan is the first step to being sold rather than kept.
 
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Didn't Keegan have to face off against a fair few irate Geordies over the sale from what I remember.

My year 5 teacher was a Newcastle fan and she told us in class when Cole was sold. She was moody all day! It is definitely a moment in time that sticks in my mind as a really crazy transfer.

A similar thing would be selling Haaland during the January transfer window to Man Utd. People forget he got 41 goals in all comps the season before without Europe or penalties! Where would that happen now?
 
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I forget Jude Bellingham is still only 19.
He can spend 5 years at Madrid and win a shed load and go to the Premier League afterwards, win a shed load and then go to Italy/France and win a shed load lol.

Lad has an entire career ahead of him.
 
I forget Jude Bellingham is still only 19.
He can spend 5 years at Madrid and win a shed load and go to the Premier League afterwards, win a shed load and then go to Italy/France and win a shed load lol.

Lad has an entire career ahead of him.

The money they spent on him is a no brainer and is incredibly cheap for a player who has 10 years ahead of him at the top.

If Rice ends up more expensive it will be pure facepalm for Arsenal.
 
The money they spent on him is a no brainer and is incredibly cheap for a player who has 10 years ahead of him at the top.

If Rice ends up more expensive it will be pure facepalm for Arsenal.
Bellingham is the 4th most expensive transfer in history, no way does Rice go for more..
 
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Just basing it off of what normally happens when we put someone on a season long loan, there arent many young players that we've loaned out who then ended up having a career with us. Not many at all. Generally speaking if Klopp thinks they are up to scratch he keeps them around and plays them, if he doesnt think that , he puts them out on loan and a year or two later they get sold. Just look at how many younger players went on loan and have now left the club, compared to how many didnt go on loan and are still here. Its almost like the loan is the first step to being sold rather than kept.
While it's certainly possible that he's not going to make it with us and he'll eventually be sold on, I'm not sure you can compare Ramsey to the various kids that come through the academy and then get loaned out before being sold. The nature of academy's at the biggest clubs just makes that the norm. If a club can produce 1 first team player every couple of seasons then they'd have done well but that means you've got dozens of players each year that aren't making it and they have to go somewhere. I doubt Klopp will have much involvement with the majority of those decisions too, it's only the ones that are close to the first team that he'll have any say in.

Ramsey, like Solanke, Elliott & Carvalho, was a bit of an opportunistic signing imo. The club obviously hope(d) these players do make it with us but they also know that even if they don't, there's a very good chance we can sell them on for a big profit in 2-3 years time too. I'm not sure this loan says too much abut his long term future with us though. He's lost a year due to injury and with our change in formation, it's difficult to see where he'd get any sort of game time with us this coming season. It makes more sense for him to go and play a season of football rather than play u23 football with us next season.
 
Bellingham is the 4th most expensive transfer in history, no way does Rice go for more..

I think it is either 100 million or he sees out his contract. We have got to the point where players are just becoming too expensive because of the value they offer to the team.

Man Utd never replaced Ronaldo, Liverpool never replaced Suarez, Spurs never replaced Bale. Westham would never be able to replace Rice. I think the future will end up with players taking far shorter contracts a bit like the NBA or end up like Kane stuck at a club forever with no chance of winning anything.

You are already seeing this with Mbappe.
 
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