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MoNkeE said:
My mate is finding his impact whey is making him feel sick, what's the best alternative? Is it Isolate that some people find is better if impact makes them feel sick?
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is it the taste of it making him feel sick?

may be lactose intolerant if it isn't the taste, therefore something with low or zero lactose.
 
I think he's lactose intolerant, I suggested this to him and he replied with:
"i've been thinking i'm a bit lactose actually, i've been having cereal for breakfast for a while now and keep getting bad stomachs which i never used to get before. Doctor thinks i have grastritis but i think it could be milk in large quanitity's making me bad. lol"

So it's not the taste (which he likes), it's the fact he needs to get it out of his stomach to feel better!
 
MoNkeE said:
I think he's lactose intolerant, I suggested this to him and he replied with:
"i've been thinking i'm a bit lactose actually, i've been having cereal for breakfast for a while now and keep getting bad stomachs which i never used to get before. Doctor thinks i have grastritis but i think it could be milk in large quanitity's making me bad. lol"

So it's not the taste (which he likes), it's the fact he needs to get it out of his stomach to feel better!
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a small amount of lactose should be fine for him.

tell him to use soy milk or another lactose free milk from now on, and cut down on cheese, yoghurt, etc.

see if he can then stomach the shake.

he should be able to handle a small amount of lactose.
 
He's not taking it with milk, no :\ And he only has a yogurt at lunch time and that's it. Apart from cereal (which I don't think he has), he really doesn't take in much milk or cheese. On the rare occassion that he eats pizza or cheese on toast, it doesn't upset his stomach at all - only seems to be milk or whey!
 
Hi all, I'm monkee's friend with the protien shake problem.

i've been taking it with water not milk. Wouldn't say i have a huge amount of milk in my diet, generally in tea and coffee. i started eating cereal and this issue seems to have come up as well as when i've tried my impact protien shakes.

i'm thinking i might be slightly lactose as i can have say a pizza and not have the stomach upsets as well as cheese on toast coffee and tea iwht milk etc.

tbh i've never been a massive fan of milk so it's not a real loss, just means i'll have the try the lactose low/free protein and milks.
 
MoNkeE said:
He's not taking it with milk, no :\ And he only has a yogurt at lunch time and that's it. Apart from cereal (which I don't think he has), he really doesn't take in much milk or cheese. On the rare occassion that he eats pizza or cheese on toast, it doesn't upset his stomach at all - only seems to be milk or whey!
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this is common too, different sources/types can set people off.

if it's milk/whey related then he has to switch to a zero lactose shake.

maybe try eating food instead of taking shakes? or if it has to be a shake then egg protein, soy protein, pea protein, hemp protein, etc.

take a look through them, but they will taste horrible.
 
All i take is stuff from MyProtein.

-Superfood XS.
-Total Protein.
-Instant Oats.
-Alpha Men.
-Omega 369.
-EAA [before i train].

Seems to do the job for my body.
 
Elfman said:
Hi all, I'm monkee's friend with the protien shake problem.

i've been taking it with water not milk. Wouldn't say i have a huge amount of milk in my diet, generally in tea and coffee. i started eating cereal and this issue seems to have come up as well as when i've tried my impact protien shakes.

i'm thinking i might be slightly lactose as i can have say a pizza and not have the stomach upsets as well as cheese on toast coffee and tea iwht milk etc.

tbh i've never been a massive fan of milk so it's not a real loss, just means i'll have the try the lactose low/free protein and milks.
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try and cut all lactose out of your diet for 2 days, then take a shake and see what happens.

also substitute cow milk for soya milk or another type if you are lactose intolerant.

basically you can handle x amount of lactose, we dont know what x amount is and it is impossible to determine. therefore just try and cut it out as much as you can.

everyone on the planet is lactose intolerant. it's just that some have a much higher "x" than other's. so they dont tend to run into problems.
 
Psycho Sonny said:
try and cut all lactose out of your diet for 2 days, then take a shake and see what happens.

also substitute cow milk for soya milk or another type if you are lactose intolerant.

basically you can handle x amount of lactose, we dont know what x amount is and it is impossible to determine. therefore just try and cut it out as much as you can.

everyone on the planet is lactose intolerant. it's just that some have a much higher "x" than other's. so they dont tend to run into problems.
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think i'm going to do that, going to have some goats milk instead of normal milk, maybe just have normal milk in the 1 cuppa i have a day. As said, i'm not going to miss milk really as i can't stand the stuff on it's own, so a treat that contains milk etc will be ok :) cheers guys!
 
MoNkeE said:
Even though it's not me with the problem, that's useful information Sonny - thanks :)
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lactose is a funny one, as some people's bodies start producing less of the enzyme needed, the older they get.

so you could have been able to eat/drink lactose containing products all day long when you were a kid, but as you get older, your body may stop producing as much of the enzyme, then you suddenly run into problems.

everyone has a limit of how much lactose their body can take within a certain time period, some peoples limits are high, so they never run into problems because they never hit it or go above it. others who have a low limit, will go over it regularly causing them problems.

the biggest problem is gas from both ends. either burping a lot, or farting a lot. in other cases some people even just breathe it out, so they dont know if they have a problem or not.

it may or may not cause the runs too, but that is dependent on the person, how much they have eaten, and what else they have eaten, etc.

what tends to set me off is cheese, im fine with all other lactose products.
 
jordan282 said:
Slow release at breakfast and before bed
Fast releasing after work out

Anybody recommend a protein that combine fast and slow releasing protein?
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Part of the mechanism for the slowing of absorption is to slow gastric emptying. Mixing fast and slow absorbing proteins together will cause gastric emptying at the rate of the slowest.

Don't worry about getting a fancy protein for this, just take with other food to slow absorption.
 
Elfman said:
Hi all, I'm monkee's friend with the protien shake problem.

i've been taking it with water not milk. Wouldn't say i have a huge amount of milk in my diet, generally in tea and coffee. i started eating cereal and this issue seems to have come up as well as when i've tried my impact protien shakes.

i'm thinking i might be slightly lactose as i can have say a pizza and not have the stomach upsets as well as cheese on toast coffee and tea iwht milk etc.

tbh i've never been a massive fan of milk so it's not a real loss, just means i'll have the try the lactose low/free protein and milks.
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Saw a very easy lactose test on tv not so long ago. Drink a pint of milk and wait 15 mins, if you burp or stomach bubbles you have most likely have a lactose intolerance.
 
Id avoid drinking soy it's a bad protein source.

Coconut milk is pretty palatable, lacto free is meant to be decent as well.
 
Contains phytoestrogens.

Just google it.

Also coconut milk contains mct oil, and a good deal of soluble fibre.
 
hux said:
Contains phytoestrogens.

Just google it.

Also coconut milk contains mct oil, and a good deal of soluble fibre.
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Soy Protein Isolate does NOT affect estrogen production as suggested by a number of unfounded myths. In a number of studies looking at such issues, there was no reported difference between those that use Soy Protein and those that don't.


taken from

http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/soy_protein_isolate
 
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