Supplements the debate/discussion thread

[Ultra_Extreme]

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...=8C392F98755279CA526EA60FE6F00821-mcd01.hydra

M8 seriously i love Tnation but they are far more interested in peddling their produce than hard science.

Soy protein has no (convincingly proven) effect on estrogen. i actually did a nice cycle on it felt cleansing.

 

[Elfman]

Cheers for all the info guys, starting my lactose free diet today so will report on how it goes.

Can't even tell the difference between the lactose free milk either

 

[Ultra_Extreme]

Gl m8 I'm gluten free and to begin with was lactose and gluten free for over 6 months. No reason it should affect training or gains, in fact chances are you will do better as a result of having to plan your diet that much more carefully.

 

[Clum]

Good deal from IS just now. Free 1kg whey with £50+ orders. Torn between this and the maxiraw welcome bag/free promax deal, as I've just run out of protein.

 

[richjs]

Cheers for all the info guys, starting my lactose free diet today so will report on how it goes.

Can't even tell the difference between the lactose free milk either

If anything I think the lactose free stuff tastes better and has less sugar overall - win-win! I would drink it all the time if I wasn't on a student budget.

Edit: @Clum - I'm seriously tempted to get both and just stockpile - no harm in it!

 

[Clum]

Edit: @Clum - I'm seriously tempted to get both and just stockpile - no harm in it!

Ye could be a shout. Not sure what the score with pricing is going to be over the coming months though. Hoping prices might go back down to what they were at the start of the year, although could just as easily go the other way I suppose.

 

['Wes]

Personally, i rely on MyProtein T-Matrix, i got amazing results from it, and i'm addicted to it now, i have to have it in my lifestyle.

 

[jordan282]

Personally, i rely on MyProtein T-Matrix, i got amazing results from it, and i'm addicted to it now, i have to have it in my lifestyle.

What does this T-matrix do?

 

[PAz]

Good deal from IS just now. Free 1kg whey with £50+ orders. Torn between this and the maxiraw welcome bag/free promax deal, as I've just run out of protein.

I got the MaxiRaw stuff. The protein tastes good but the free orange promax tastes disgusting.

 

[BennyC]

Id avoid drinking soy it's a bad protein source.

Coconut milk is pretty palatable, lacto free is meant to be decent as well.

huh?

soy milk has more protein in it than coconut milk

If I looked at soy a while back and there is a little confusion arount it's moob enhancing effects. Can't remember what my conclusion on it was!

 

['Wes]

What does this T-matrix do?

http://www.myprotein.com/uk/products/mp-max-t-matrix

MP Max T Matrix is one of the most advanced muscle building products to hit the market, using a scientifically driven formula to help you achieve the lean gains you deserve.

Combining some of the most exciting muscle building ingredients available, MP Max T Matrix can take your training to the next level by providing unequalled gains. Mucuna Pruriens, Fenugreek, DIM and D Aspartic Acid have all been shown to have a positive effect on growth compound levels whilst also creating the most positive balance for tissue growth. To further boost muscle mass, Beta Ecdysterone and Methoxy Isoflavone have been added to boost protein synthesis and help create the optimal muscle building environment.

This revolutionary formula has been specifically designed for serious athletes looking for serious gains in strength, power and muscle mass.

 

[Chris1712]

Reflex Instant Whey 2.27kg BUY ONE GET ONE FREE



£38.96 for 2x2.27kg tubs, bargain!

 

[richjs]

Says £49.99 for me?

 

['Wes]

All i take is stuff from MyProtein.

-Superfood XS.
-Total Protein.
-Instant Oats.
-Alpha Men.
-Omega 369.
-EAA [before i train].
-MP MAX T Matrix.

Seems to do the job for my body.

Just wondering whether anyone else uses supplements as their source of food for whatever reasons? Personally, I find it cheaper and more convenient.

 

[Ultra_Extreme]

Just wondering whether anyone else uses supplements as their main source of food for whatever reasons? I find it cheaper and more convenient.

have done m8 for most of my last bulk i used shakes with oats for all meals bar a main evening meal.

Had no issues gained well

 

[jordan282]

Anybody recommend Testosterone boosters? Contemplating getting the MP MAX T Matrix

 

[tom_e]

Anybody recommend Testosterone boosters? Contemplating getting the MP MAX T Matrix

How old are you? They make a small difference to the older guys but if you're still young there is little point

 

[Ultra_Extreme]

Anybody recommend Testosterone boosters? Contemplating getting the MP MAX T Matrix

i have been through every test booster known to man and nothing ever did anything. And speaking as someone who has actually used test, they really really dont!

of course in a minute someone will come and post some science links relating to tribulus or similar, the above is just my opinion on real world effectiveness of test boosters.

 

['Wes]

Ignore.

 

[Steedie]

Has anyone got any recommendations for a decent bedtime protein formula, similar to MyProteins Bedtime Extreme, or USN Pure?

Fancy trying something new