Supplements the debate/discussion thread

They are 1000mg glucosamine apparently which is the same as the MP ones I have. I wouldn't worry about the quality,do you have to buy them instore rather than online?
 
No reason, just wondered why you were buying from holland a barrett which as you said yourself has some questionable quality supps when you could by online probably cheaper :)
 
Freefaller said:
Even better would be a non lactose based protein - but that's not everybody's cup of tea before bed. A nice steak before bed is good! :D I keeed I keeed... well sort of. Cottage cheese, a small tin of sardines/mackerel, 3-4 slices of ham etc... however if you want to go the supplement route, then hemp or pea protein (pea is ideal before bed). However ity just means more supplements to buy (unless you're not using whey anymore! ;)).
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Id rather eat whole food than take a supplement so a can of mackeral it will be before bed :) cheers for the advice

How is whey for a protein hit in the mornings? or would bacon and eggs be a better option

Im thinking mixing up a shake with milk and whey and pouring it over 100g of fruit n fibre
 
Freefaller said:
You've certainly got the right attitude, which helps. :) I don't mind helping people, or at least offering advice to those that ask for it who are happy to take on board what is being said. So no worries. :)

Pre workout you need to give yourself some energy and some protein, but the PWO meal is the most important - I'll let you decide, but maybe a small bowl of porridge and then the eggs on toast afterwards?

I'm not sure what synergy drink is - what does it contain? If you feel it helps, keep it, but that's your call. :)

Pasta sounds good, make sure it's heavier on the filling than the actual pasta though! i.e. bulk it out with veg and protein based food (i.e. meat).

Cereal bar is just loaded with sugars and server very little nutrionally. Don't bother about a protein bar - how about some cottage cheese, or some hummous and carrots, or oatcakes - jsut something a bit more wholesome would be better IMO.

Haha - well if the cookie is that nice, by all means treat yourself, I'm just saying it's likely to give you very little in terms of nutrition, and whether or not it has hazlenuts - it's like that nutella advert trying to tell us it's healthy because it contains nuts! :D If you want a snack, how about sardines, or some ham and cheese, or something like that? ?Not as tasty as a cookie I admit, but 100% better for you!

Drinks sound good, though just be aware that a lot of juices add sweetners to them.

Don't trust that machine - seriously. Get yourself measured properly. Any instructor worth their salt wouldn't state that those machines are "ok". :)

Post work out I like something with electrolytes, but also I make my own mixture of finely blended oats nad protein (as well as a few other magic things such as cinnamon etc...). The actualy drink is less important if you have a decent meal PWO. Hence why I suggested you split your brekkie. It's more important to get some slow releasing protein at night, then worry about post workout if you're about to have a meal. I have a shake PWO as I don't eat till about 1.5hrs afterwards and want to start the recovery process - you have the opportunity to eat straight away. It's your call, your money. :)
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Thanks FF it should take a couple weeks to finally implement the changes (granny made another batch of cookies) so im looking forward to finally getting my diet that much better.
Anyway im still thinking of buying some supplements, and getting off the PHd synergy.
I've heard good things about the site myprotein and have found two items im interested in:
MegaOmega - Organic Omega Oil Blend
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/capsules-tablets-softgels/omega-3-and-fish-oils/megaomega/
Impact Whey Isolate
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/impact-whey-isolate/

Im not really after anything that would give me a boost in my training like creatine, i just think im happy getting in some extra protein in me before and straight after training. Ive noticed on this thread people talking about omega 3 oils etc. So i looked into it and thought its worth a purchase even for a young buck like me.
 
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bakes0310 said:
Thanks FF it should take a couple weeks to finally implement the changes (granny made another batch of cookies) so im looking forward to finally getting my diet that much better.
Anyway im still thinking of buying some supplements, and getting off the PHd synergy.
I've heard good things about the site myprotein and have found two items im interested in:
MegaOmega - Organic Omega Oil Blend
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/capsules-tablets-softgels/omega-3-and-fish-oils/megaomega/
Impact Whey Isolate
http://www.myprotein.co.uk/bulk-powders/protein-powders/impact-whey-isolate/

Im not really after anything that would give me a boost in my training like creatine, i just think im happy getting in some extra protein in me before and straight after training. Ive noticed on this thread people talking about omega 3 oils etc. So i looked into it and thought its worth a purchase even for a young buck like me.
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Personally if I'm buying from MP I use the bottled strawberry flavoured omega 3 oil, works out best for the cash and tastes pretty nutral.
I've never used the Isolate personally but I tried some of my house mates a while ago and its not overly bad but its not the nicest thing unflavoured.
If its your first order MP32093 will get you 5% off
 
Need some advice, i have been on PHD Synergy ISO 7 for a little while now, and need to change product.

Would i be fine stacking Maximuscle Cyclone with CMI N03 Overload MM5T?
 
Personally I've always thought products like synergy, cyclone etc were most for people who struggled to push through plateaus as it's extra carbs, some creatine etc. You've only really been lifting for 6 months? I don't see why you don't spend that money addressing your diet?

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I'm about to order some 10LB bags of whey from MP and was thinking of trying creatine when I start my next bulk so figured I'd take advantage of their free shipping while my order qualifies.

I think I decided on Monohydrate over Ethyl Ester (can't remember why from the sources I read :P). My question is the 'Creapure' worth the extra over the standard Monohydrate? Quite a bit dearer. Anybody had an experience with either?
 
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Benny06 said:
I think I decided on Monohydrate over Ethyl Ester (can't remember why from the sources I read :P). My question is the 'Creapure' worth the extra over the standard Monohydrate? Quite a bit dearer. Anybody had an experience with either?
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I just bought the mono, hasn't arrived yet though. Since it's my first time trying creatine I thought I'd just go with the standard, cheapest stuff, then I will know if/when I buy the more expensive stuff whether it's actually worth it.
 
Asked the same question over on ESN.
It's something stupid like 0.9% purer. When it's already a really pure substance. CEE is monohydrate with something else added in to make it more easily absorbed.

Went for the standard mono, not paying double for something that's barely any different! Be about 2 months before I bulk and get a chance to use it though!
 
Might be opening a can of worms here but what are everyones thoughts on soy protein isolate, anyone used it long term. I know it's had controversy over the years but I have read of people getting good results using purely soy and it seems more of a mixed bag now?
 
I've stayed away from it because of bad stories and the "estrogenic" effects.

If you want to try an alternative source of protein, you could always go for pea protein (I'm gonna try it when I run out of my big bucket of whey :D ) as it seems to have a decent amino acid profile, none of the "estrogen" thinghies of soy and an impressive content of arginine.

Ofc there's always hemp protein but for now I find it way to expensive for my budget.
 
Can anyone who switched from whey, when they are having no digestion problems, to these other types of protein powder give me some info? I haven't heard of anyone using it in real life, and apart from beef no one competitively either :confused:
 
cristi said:
I've stayed away from it because of bad stories and the "estrogenic" effects.

If you want to try an alternative source of protein, you could always go for pea protein (I'm gonna try it when I run out of my big bucket of whey :D ) as it seems to have a decent amino acid profile, none of the "estrogen" thinghies of soy and an impressive content of arginine.

Ofc there's always hemp protein but for now I find it way to expensive for my budget.
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Sure I've read read about those effects but also read otherwise with people saying they'd been on it with no problems. Still I guess it is a bit of a worry
 
mind you all those effects were probably exagerated. And some people might have very high natural production of testosterone, etc.

But the thing is, why risk it when there are so many alternatives?
 
If you're worried about the oestrogenic side effects, you can take some reservartol with it which has anti aromatase (aromatase inhibitor) properties which prevents adrogenic compounds from converting to oestrogen.
 
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