Supplements the debate/discussion thread
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I think that only applies for phd products
lol my vmax still has, annoyingly, a good weeks worth left, when will it end!!. Phd definitely have proved they have some good value for money, with good quality, I'd recommend them 1st off to anyone now I think.The Syntha-6 being the most expensive of the lot, £27 for 1.3kg, and it's only 50% protein. The ON being I think 79%. But.... as I said, they seem to garner ridiculously good customer reviews, and lots of them, so wanted to check them out. I know it sounds silly, but it's more convenient for me to have that smaller 1kg pot for the 'bedtime' supp, as I keep it in my room, so I always have it, lasts me a month. I think i'll try the 6-hour phd next, pour half into this container and chuck the rest into a cupboard.
As we know, there's always loads of people who like every single protein supplement (with the exception of holland and barratt 200g for 8g of protein
) so it's a hard thing to judge, I wouldnt say the syntha 6 is worth a near enough 50% price hike over other protein, but it is damn nice!
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I mean to say just because it's more expensive doesn't mean it's better lol. Quite tired last night couldn't type for toffee!
Yeah the 6HR Blend is a 2.27KG Bag and is probaly a better product in regards to it's content. Plus it's cheaper working out at £17.50 per 1.13KG.
The V-maxx tubs are awesome for storing fish oils and the likes in. I have a Pharma Blend tub full of EAA's I capped myself. And an only BCAA pot full of Leucine caps. Got a thing for keeping tubs
Yeah the 6HR Blend is a 2.27KG Bag and is probaly a better product in regards to it's content. Plus it's cheaper working out at £17.50 per 1.13KG.
The V-maxx tubs are awesome for storing fish oils and the likes in. I have a Pharma Blend tub full of EAA's I capped myself. And an only BCAA pot full of Leucine caps. Got a thing for keeping tubs
Soldato
Just a quick couple of questions.
Im debating weather or not to try some form of Nitric Oxide Powder.
1. Are they worth it? I
2. is there one particular brand better than the others? and if so which one
3. What's the best way to use them?
4. Can it be mixed with other supps in the same shaker (pre workout for example)
Im debating weather or not to try some form of Nitric Oxide Powder.
1. Are they worth it? I
2. is there one particular brand better than the others? and if so which one
3. What's the best way to use them?
4. Can it be mixed with other supps in the same shaker (pre workout for example)
IMO/IME not really worth it.
Soldato
Same.
Depends what you see them as, they're commonly in preworkout 'make you go nuts' products. The gumpf on the side of the box will bang on about nutrient flow etc etc and 900% mass gains. I rarely listen to these claims.
But prods like these give me a right kick up the arse when I'm tired, probably since they got a lot of caffeine, and I do perform a bit better in the gym.
If you got the monies give them a go, otherwise an extra strong coffee and a banana is sufficient.
But prods like these give me a right kick up the arse when I'm tired, probably since they got a lot of caffeine, and I do perform a bit better in the gym.
If you got the monies give them a go, otherwise an extra strong coffee and a banana is sufficient.
Soldato
I suppose the best way to find out is to try it out and see how it goes.
Read a few pages back as Kappa & I have discussed them a bit. Something we've both tried recently.
It's not essential and ignore the claims of bf % drops & insane mass gains. They are however good as a pick me up and to allow training intensity to increase I found. Big pumps are also fun.
If you're after supps to maximise your mass gains there are other more suitable supps available and money would be better spent on these.
It's not essential and ignore the claims of bf % drops & insane mass gains. They are however good as a pick me up and to allow training intensity to increase I found. Big pumps are also fun.
If you're after supps to maximise your mass gains there are other more suitable supps available and money would be better spent on these.
Soldato
Not after mass gains from this supplement. Just after a bit of an energy boost before the gym. I will read back and see what you had to say
Soldato
I think i might have a try of that SuperPump 250.
Do you guys take it 30mins before a workout as it says, or do you differ?
Do you guys take it 30mins before a workout as it says, or do you differ?
Banana and a coffee should give you enough of a kick really.
Like FF says tea/coffee and a banana wil lhave a similar effect but I completely understand wanting to try it once. Then you can make up your own mind.
I took SP250 around 20-30 minutes before training, with a pre WO shake 30 minutes previously to that.
Have a play it might kick in quicker/slower for you than it did me. I found the anxiety from taking it gave me some rather loose bowels (controlled, but just loose)
I took SP250 around 20-30 minutes before training, with a pre WO shake 30 minutes previously to that.
Have a play it might kick in quicker/slower for you than it did me. I found the anxiety from taking it gave me some rather loose bowels (controlled, but just loose
)Not after mass gains from this supplement. Just after a bit of an energy boost before the gym. I will read back and see what you had to say
All Nitric Oxide will do is dilate your blood vessels, possibly enhancing the "pump" but not a deal else.
This is the whole argument. Increasing hemodilation in theory allows more blood, oxygen & nutrients into the muscle. Allowing more intense contractions/workouts along with plenty of 'refuel' to the muscles.
Though if you're not training correctly or eating right in the first place this will be limited anyway. One thing is for sure they ARE fun
I've tried the following:
Whey protein
Creatine mono
Creatine ethyl
HMB
L-Glutamine
Glucosamine
Cod liver oil
Thermogenics
ZMA
Multivitamins
Vit B-complex
I've been pleased with the results of each (except CEE...that stuff is a horrible waste of time and money...tastes awful too)
HMB I seem to do really well with, my cutting phases have been easier and more effective when using it (though I've been trying to avoid the whole cut/gain phase thing recently in favor of a more balanced diet approach)
ZMA would probably be the one I've been most pleased with...since taking it I've had more energy (and sex drive :O) that I know what to do with. My recovery times are better and it's allowed me to train harder.
C-mono has been okay, it was a bit overhyped to me as something that would dramatically change my gym experiences forever. It has definately helped but I'm not experiencing the ~15% gains over time that some studies suggest.
L-Glutamine is something I'd recommend when cutting where it really does quash hunger cravings
Cod liver oil is fantastic, I started taking this when I was doing TKD and it + glucosamine saved my joints from the savage beatings martial arts inflicts on them.
All in all I've had a good time with supplements but I can only echo the truth that when it comes to training nothing beats a solid diet.
Whey protein
Creatine mono
Creatine ethyl
HMB
L-Glutamine
Glucosamine
Cod liver oil
Thermogenics
ZMA
Multivitamins
Vit B-complex
I've been pleased with the results of each (except CEE...that stuff is a horrible waste of time and money...tastes awful too)
HMB I seem to do really well with, my cutting phases have been easier and more effective when using it (though I've been trying to avoid the whole cut/gain phase thing recently in favor of a more balanced diet approach)
ZMA would probably be the one I've been most pleased with...since taking it I've had more energy (and sex drive :O) that I know what to do with. My recovery times are better and it's allowed me to train harder.
C-mono has been okay, it was a bit overhyped to me as something that would dramatically change my gym experiences forever. It has definately helped but I'm not experiencing the ~15% gains over time that some studies suggest.
L-Glutamine is something I'd recommend when cutting where it really does quash hunger cravings
Cod liver oil is fantastic, I started taking this when I was doing TKD and it + glucosamine saved my joints from the savage beatings martial arts inflicts on them.
All in all I've had a good time with supplements but I can only echo the truth that when it comes to training nothing beats a solid diet.
Soldato
Wow that's a lot a stuff - am I in the minority here? Just fish oil capsules for me and whey maybe a few times a week.
ZMA deffinatley upped my sex drive/production. But found the Zinc began to give me freaky dreams (sometimes the almost felt real) and was interupting my sleep pattern which is usually pritty damn good.
A good alternative to a test booster. Though for most of us who are still young early 20's and below boosters aren't really necesary as test production is still high.
A good alternative to a test booster. Though for most of us who are still young early 20's and below boosters aren't really necesary as test production is still high.