Supplements the debate/discussion thread

[arknor]

There's no such thing as negative calorie food/drinks, but I know what you mean

And it was just the thought of someone eating a plate of ice that made me laugh

your body has to use energy to raise the temprature of the ice cold water
1pint of 0 degree water = -17.5 calories

probably more than those suposed fat burners actualy do which was the point i was making
if your drinking water anyway you might aswell drink ice cold water

 

[MoNkeE]

...... Can't tell.... If serious.... Or Troll.......?

 

[Elixir]

...... Can't tell.... If serious.... Or Troll.......?

He's right in terms of the science, but I'm fairly surely he's not seriously suggesting it.

 

[Steedie]

your body has to use energy to raise the temprature of the ice cold water
1pint of 0 degree water = -17.5 calories

probably more than those suposed fat burners actualy do which was the point i was making
if your drinking water anyway you might aswell drink ice cold water

........

Not worth it

 

[Chris1712]

Anyone happen to know the cheapest place for Scivation Xtend at the moment? Not fussed too much on flavour or whether it's the new formula.

 

[LiE]

£17.99 for the smaller tub on ebay, old formula. About £38 for the larger size from the same place.

Edit:
£15.99 on Amazon.

 

[Chris1712]

Yikes, gone up then . The new formula is like £15 more than the old!?

 

[Begbie]

Yeah I seen that. Is the new formula really worth the extra?

Doubtful.

@ Arigold, your workout, weights wise is pretty terrible. Look into starting strentgh or read the old sticky.

 

[icecold]

10 minute joging & running
3x10 dips 3x10 chipups
3x10 bicep curls
10 minute running
1000m Rowing
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45 minute spinning class

I'm going to assuming above isn't enough?

So I'm looking to get something like this

Your workout is very poor.

You need a whole routine, that works all of your muscle groups. Legs, back, chest, shoulders...

 

[Delvis]

It's only terrible due to the lack of back and leg work really

Arigold: Are you wanting a weights routine? Or are you attempting to go for a cardio with Bodyweight exercise route or something?

 

[icecold]

...and structure, and balance...

What's your point?

 

[arigold]

Thank you for the feedback.

I'm 'attempting to go for a cardio with Bodyweight exercise route'

http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showthread.php?t=17401146 - Seems to be ideal for a begineer like me.

I play football a lot so I can do with more power in sprinting and also weekly mountain biking so looking for endurance.

I think I need to research more, thanks anyways

EDIT: I'm hoping none is going to ask me to post a picture of my 8pack body?

 

[Delvis]

...and structure, and balance...

What's your point?

Theres nout wrong with it (sorry mis-read, nout wrong with just wanting a cardio / BW based routine, the original routine was odd I agree ), this may be a gym orientated thread etc, but theres plenty of 'boot camp' style fitness regimes around that work.

No, you won't become a bodybuilder using it, thats not the point of them

 

[Skillmister]

It's only terrible due to the lack of back and leg work really

You mean other than no chest or shoulder stuff right like icecold pointed out?

 

[Delvis]

You mean other than no chest or shoulder stuff right like icecold pointed out?

Apart from the fact dips are a known exercise to work chest well. Roll eyes etc.

And as agreed, it was an odd routine

 

[icecold]

If you want to be a faster sprinter you really need to be working your legs

increased muscle cross section --> strength --> power --> speed

Squats, cleans, snatch, etc. All technical lifts but they're the best. You'll need to do single leg work too for increased power delivery and steering/control. Bulgarian split squats would be my vote.

If you're trying to cut, fix your diet.

 

[icecold]

Theres nout wrong with it (sorry mis-read, nout wrong with just wanting a cardio / BW based routine, the original routine was odd I agree ), this may be a gym orientated thread etc, but theres plenty of 'boot camp' style fitness regimes around that work.

That just not true!

You're making that statement without looking at his goals at all.

A cardio/BW routine would only "work" to increase endurance and very limited hypertrophy and stability.

 

[Delvis]

That just not true!

You're making that statement without looking at his goals at all.

A cardio/BW routine would only "work" to increase endurance and very limited hypertrophy and stability.

I was merely asking originally what his goals where, as his original routine pointed towards him to wanting to do more cardio based work as opposed to weight training

 

[arigold]

If you want to be a faster sprinter you really need to be working your legs

increased muscle cross section --> strength --> power --> speed

Squats, cleans, snatch, etc. All technical lifts but they're the best. You'll need to do single leg work too for increased power delivery and steering/control. Bulgarian split squats would be my vote.

If you're trying to cut, fix your diet.

Thanks. As well as sptrinting, I want to build on my upper body so I don't get knocked over like ashley young (i'm hoping this isn't going to turn the thread in to something else other than supplement debate)

 

[Delvis]

Thanks. As well as sptrinting, I want to build on my upper body so I don't get knocked over like ashley young (i'm hoping this isn't going to turn the thread in to something else other than supplement debate)

Heh, kinda has already

May want to post in the Gym Ratz thread with regards to more talk on a routine.