Supplements the debate/discussion thread

Anyone else here on MP Hurricane XS or MP Whey? I've been using it and though I'm already seeing gains I'm not sure if I'm a fan. It tastes fine and the liquid is very light, but the creatine lumps don't mix very well at all which means you get lumps coming through in the shake. I'm thinking next time just get MP whey and creatine as pills, but what would the difference be in nutrition/would I need to add anything more to be getting the same stuff?
 
Mix your creatine separately in a small glass with a bit of squash. Stir with a spoon and neck it.
 
Ksanti said:
Anyone else here on MP Hurricane XS or MP Whey? I've been using it and though I'm already seeing gains I'm not sure if I'm a fan. It tastes fine and the liquid is very light, but the creatine lumps don't mix very well at all which means you get lumps coming through in the shake. I'm thinking next time just get MP whey and creatine as pills, but what would the difference be in nutrition/would I need to add anything more to be getting the same stuff?
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Yeah ive literally just started on the Hurricane stuff (and working out again) so will be interesting to see what results Ill get.

What are you finding so far?
 
ChocolateStarfishRammer said:
Yeah ive literally just started on the Hurricane stuff (and working out again) so will be interesting to see what results Ill get.

What are you finding so far?
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Never been on creatine and only been on Hurricane a week (was on Supreme Protein bars before that but they take up too much space to store in supplies over a month really which can be a pain), but definitely noticing the creatine pump more than anything. Feel like I'm getting more for my work effort than I have done previously but that might be mixed with me working harder due to the renewed commitment you get when trying something new haha. Probably worth noting that the creatine in the mix is only at about maintenance levels rather than any sort of loading, so it won't replace a normal creatine routine but it's nice to have on top of just having whey normally.

LiE said:
Mix your creatine separately in a small glass with a bit of squash. Stir with a spoon and neck it.
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I would but it's all mixed into the rest of the powder and crumbles quite easily when dry for some reason, but doesn't mix with the rest of the shake.
 
Ksanti said:
Anyone else here on MP Hurricane XS or MP Whey? I've been using it and though I'm already seeing gains I'm not sure if I'm a fan. It tastes fine and the liquid is very light, but the creatine lumps don't mix very well at all which means you get lumps coming through in the shake. I'm thinking next time just get MP whey and creatine as pills, but what would the difference be in nutrition/would I need to add anything more to be getting the same stuff?
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Any reason why you are on creatine by the way? Just curious as you've just started up haven't you?

I have MP Whey, mixes like a dream
 
Delvis said:
So why would you use it?
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Apart from the fact i dont have much faith in creatines scientific standing as a supp, syla5 is right, its basically like saying "dont bother with protein shakes until your huge" any supplement that works has value from the very start.

The argument about whether anyone apart from elite strength, lifting vegetarians, needs creatine supplements... well thats another debate
 
Ultra_Extreme said:
Apart from the fact i dont have much faith in creatines scientific standing as a supp, syla5 is right, its basically like saying "dont bother with protein shakes until your huge" any supplement that works has value from the very start.

The argument about whether anyone apart from elite strength, lifting vegetarians, needs creatine supplements... well thats another debate
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Oh i'm not disputing that, i'm just wondering why he's taking it in a general sense.

I have no idea what creatine does really, never used the stuff so I was curious.
 
Question for all of you's

I started out gyming it again last week and got a routine going with me shakes and all sorts..

But the way I'm built at the moment, I could do with gaining wieght\muscle everywhere apart from my abs, in which Ive got a fairly small layer of fat.

Whats the best way of getting rid of that? Is the shakes and everything going to be just adding to that? Or is it all down to diet?
 
Essentially it'll be diet, and cardio if you choose to add some in. You can't really 'not gain muscle' in any particular area.

If anything, your abs / core should be being used every session anyway, so there will be no stopping them from working ;)
 
Skillmister said:
Why not?
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Oh i'm not disputing that, i'm just wondering why he's taking it in a general sense.

I have no idea what creatine does really, never used the stuff so I was curious.
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If you quoted my whole quote you'd have seen the second part :p
 
I did see that. I was wondering why you are suggesting he might not need to take it just because he's starting out, especially if you don't even know what it does?

How about the first post of this thread

Creatine: the longest used/researched supp. There's a lot of debate about this one - which one to go for, which one works, some dont' work for some etc... Creatine works by pulling the water from outside the muscle cells - inside and thus allowing the muscle to exert a higher level of contractile force. It basically helps fuel muscles. This basically means you will be able to lift more weight during your workouts. I have to admit I havent' really "felt" I have got much of out creatines - but I know when I have been supplementing with it in the past, it probably did help but it's not like a cup of coffee where you "feel" the caffeine kicking in. Plain fact is, if you have a decent amount of red meat in your diet you probably have enough creatine in your body. However, there are a lot of non-pseudo bits of research on it. It's up to you to decide whether or not it works for you.
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Skillmister said:
I did see that. I was wondering why you are suggesting he might not need to take it just because he's starting out, especially if you don't even know what it does?

How about the first post of this thread
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I never suggested he shouldn't be, I'm just surprised he's using the stuff straight away rather than just training and eating like a mofo and downing a shake after a workout. :)
 
tom_e said:
I like this http://www.musclefinesse.com/shop/c...G-Science-Anadraulic-State-GT-720g/764/detail not a massive kick like Jack3d but a nice steady energy with no major crash.
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That has some odd ingredients in it for a pre workout!
SERM!? SARM!?

I know what the above are, I've just never seen them listed in a pre workout before.

Craze is my favourite pre workout, £30 for 45 scoops, one heaped scoop is enough for me and I don't have to ramp up the dose like I did with jack3d so it's actually better value for money.
 
But again, if something gives a benefit to training/gaining mass why would you not use it at the start to make noob gains even better? ;) Hell if i was starting again i'd do/take everything that might help.
 
MG42Maniac said:
That has some odd ingredients in it for a pre workout!
SERM!? SARM!?

I know what the above are, I've just never seen them listed in a pre workout before.

Craze is my favourite pre workout, £30 for 45 scoops, one heaped scoop is enough for me and I don't have to ramp up the dose like I did with jack3d so it's actually better value for money.
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It's a load of fancy marketing talk like most supps but it gives me a boost when I feel I need it which is all I'm really bothered about, anything else it manages is just a nice bonus.
 
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