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Supplements the debate/discussion thread

Discussion in 'Sports Arena' started by Freefaller, Sep 1, 2009.

  1. madindehead

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    Thanks for the links. So I've got to eat it cold? I've only ever eaten it warm before, with sausages and potatoes. The sauerkraut that is. Miso is fine cooked right, still probiotic then.
     
  2. Glaucus

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    doesn't have to be cold, but you cant cook it as it destroys the bacteria. Cooking with probiotics destroys the benefits.
     
  3. madindehead

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    Hmm, I knew that. Just wondering how it works with fresh miso. You cook it by putting it in the soup at the end of the day. I guess yogurts are the best shout then.
     
  4. Draeger

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    Dudes using TTA - what was your cycle? 2 months on at 1g per day followed by a month off?
     
  5. krooton

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  6. madindehead

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    Care to share a recipe? :D
     
  7. krooton

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    Pretty simple:

    Get this and this.
    Get a variety of cabbage (or one type, whatever) I found that 2 normal whole heads of supermarket white cabbage fit in to the Lakeland fermentation thingy)
    Get some natural sea salt (low or non iodized, I got Maldon flakes).

    Remove outer leaves (keep 1 or 2 of them whole), core the cabbage and slice in to the thin strips. Do not wash the cabbage as you want the bacteria that is on it.

    Weigh you final amount of cabbage.

    Put in a large bowl. If you don't have 1 big enough, do this in multiple batches.

    Weigh the cabbage you are working with, and add 2% of that weight in salt. (so if you have 500g of sliced cabbage, add 10g of salt).

    Massage, knead, and generally smoosh the cabbage and salt with you hands, for at least 10 minutes.

    The cabbage will softed and brine will start to be expelled from the cabbage.

    Smoosh until you get a decent amount of brine forming.

    Pack the cabbage tightly in to the fermentation jar, and pour the remaining brine on at the end.

    Repeat your smoosh and pack until all your cabbage is done.

    Tear the whole leftover leaves so that it roughly fits in to the jar, pack it over the shredded cabbage to form a layer, then put the pickle weights on top.

    Ensure that everything is well smooshed down and that the brine level is above the shredded cabbage.

    Screw the top of the jar (follow the instructions and make sure the release plug is closed) and place in a warmish place (ideally around 21ºC).

    Try to place the jar in a wide bowl to catch any drips/leaks that might occur as the brine starts to bubble.

    Wait at least 3 weeks, checking to make sure the fermentation is happening, you can tell by all the bubbles from the CO2 made by the good bacteria as they do their thing.

    Do a taste test, if you are happy with the level of sourness, you can then remove the weights, discard the whole leaves, and move the sauerkraut in to storage jars (I use these).

    If you want it more sour, or if you find it too salty, give it another week and re-test. The saltiness mellows the longer it ferments.

    Store completed sauerkraut in the fridge, good for at least 6 months (though mine never lasts that long).

    Once you have the basics done, you can experiment with adding extra things (classic extras like carraway seeds or juniper berries, or more complicated kraut like including carrot and garlic to the mix).
     
  8. madindehead

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    Thanks for that :D
     
  9. Ayahuasca

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    Pretty alarming mistake they made on Vitamin D RDA https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/28768407

    Think my tablets are 5000iu so not too far off the amount actually required, I'll probably start taking 2 a day from now on, particularly in the winter.
     
  10. Somnambulist

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    My friend was necking high dosage D3 tablets and got tested using these guys earlier this year; his levels were massively high, far past the normal range and he actually had to reduce his intake because they didn't need to be that high and while it doesn't appear to be detrimental to health, it's not a highly studied area (I think). Definitely worth seeing what your levels actually are before hitting 10kIU+ on the daily.
     
  11. Ayahuasca

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    Been taking a cocktail of Phenibut - N-Acetyl L-Tyrosine - L-Theanine - Ashwagandha and Magnesium Taurate and I feel like that dude on limitless for a few hours :D never more than once a week though, and I have multiple cups of coffee on days I do, to keep me from the drowsy affects a few of these bring on.
     
  12. SixTwoSix

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    Wow...over a year since this thread was posted in.

    Anyway, while it's widely accepted that multi vitamin tablets are waste of time due to the bodies inability to efficiently absorb most of that's in them before they're expelled...there used to be a multi vitamin well regarded on the sports section of this forum as a slight exception to the rule, does anyone remember what it was?
     
  13. CaptainRAVE

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    Still more going to be absorbed than if you don’t take them though.
     
  14. SixTwoSix

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    That's kind of my mindset at the moment, going to be 40 in a few months and figure every little bit helps.
     
  15. Ayahuasca

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    Get bloodwork done otherwise you really can be just wasting money and it can sometimes lead to negative effects if you already have high levels of certain ones.
     
  16. neoboy

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    Just to revive this a little bit, anyone has any experience with collagen protein? Hear all kinds of magical stories of joints feeling much better and decent body of evidence on examine.com.

    Decent price on MyProtein so half a scoop a day can't to hurt to supplement my supplement of protein :p
     
  17. CaptainRAVE

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    Wait, you mean protein that you digest into the base amino acids? Eat some meat :p
     
  18. Ayahuasca

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    Protein has gone full hipster the last I checked, about a million different versions you can buy now just on the one site :p
     
  19. Kates David

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    What is a "modern diet"? - I thought that a modern diet was, short of not eating grain from grass, and berries from bushes, whatever else you care to make it. I`m not sure that eating excessive amounts of protein is the safe way for gaining weight, losing bone mass and blowing your kidneys quite possibly. To gain weight simply increase the intake by way of a balanced diet. What`s so wrong with that? Vitamins from food is not the same as taking a pill, the co-factors are required for normal absorption and utilization purposes, the supplements would require to be in their natural form, and also time released, a specific time as well. This is not all, but it`s some of it. Shall we go on?
     
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  20. Kates David

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    That is not me, it`s Drunkermaster! I engage with those supplements which current research suggests to perhaps being of some benefit over and above a normal healthy diet. Cancer Research UK is currently examining the potential benefits of taking additional quantities of antioxidants in fending off given forms of cancer. I have not been waiting around countless decades for this research to be completed, I have considered it to be worth my while investing in the main players from the start. As I said though, I adjust my position as research adjusts its own. I am currently sixty three years of age and my main hobby is in the training for new world record attempts. They are published to Youtube.
     
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