Suzuka Circuit -JAPANESE Grand Prix 2009 - Race 15/17

As I said when Ferrari replaced Badoer, Fisi is the worst defensive driver of all time. :D

Buttons drive was decent enough, he was much faster that rubens and it's a shame the rookie binned it because button was about to catch and I'm sure pass rubens.

He was way faster over the race distance and must be yet again looking at his qfy.

Most amazing thing of the race was Vettel not blowing it or not making any mistakes.

Button will have to go to the wire now, he won't wrap it up in Brazil. He's going to be a figure of extreme hatred in Brazil and I reckon that will get to him.
 
1) Why wasn't Kovy penalised for clobbering Sutil? Think back to Massa vs Hamilton last year in Fuji - Massa got a penalty for nerfing Hamilton in a similar manner (on the grass at the apex, moving back on track and tagging the car outside of him). Inconsistency from the race stewards once more, or as I like to put it - McLaren International Assistance! :)

Forgot to mention that bit - a very clumsy move by Kovalainen there, Sutil caught him napping and he tried to "recover" too late by nudging him pretty hard. Very sloppy and deserving of some form of penalty. It's not Gran Turismo on the PS2, you can't just nudge people off when they pass you.

I predicted that incident out loud to Kate many laps before it happened, right down to the spot it would happen and Button gaining 2 places from it. Very pleased with myself :D.
 
2) That's probably the best I've seen Vettel drive since Monza '08. Utterly brilliant, so far ahead that he could survive two slow pitstops and come out with an enormous lead.
3) Hamilton seemed pretty ordinary by his standards today. Aside from his start (which was electric as always), he never seemed to have even a brief response to the speed of Vettel and always looked in danger of losing the spot to Trulli that he'd done so well to gain.

i think that was simply a case of the mclaren not being fast enough in the high speed corners yet.

both red bulls were half a second faster then anything else on the lap time charts and each lap hamilton would lose about .4 in the first sector alone before getting a bit back on the final.

and toyota as always being massively inconsistent and having a good race.

just a case of this track suiting the red bull.
 
1) Why wasn't Kovy penalised for clobbering Sutil? Think back to Massa vs Hamilton last year in Fuji - Massa got a penalty for nerfing Hamilton in a similar manner (on the grass at the apex, moving back on track and tagging the car outside of him).

Meh, racing incident 50/50 - neither driver deserved a penalty.
 
Ok race though not as exciting as yesterday's quali (that made me fire up the old EA Sports F1 Challenge game).

Have to agree with Brundle's comment about putting very young & somewhat not full experienced drivers into an F1 car. Think FIA need to address this, maybe look at or tweak 3rd/test driver rules
 
The Race Director reported to the Stewards that Car No 16, Nico Rosberg exceeded the time delta from when the "Safety Deployed" message was displayed until crossing the Safety Car line. The Stewards met with the driver and the team representatives and considered the telemetry data, GPS records, timekeeping and video evidence. This evidence showed a "low fuel" message on the drivers display had overridden the time delta information preventing the driver from being able to accurately follow the timing information.

However the telemetry data shows that the driver from a safety point of view had reacted adequately to the yellow flags and safety car boards. In view of this the Stewards intend to take no further action.

So, he did break the rule....but he won't be punished. I'm just going to sit back, grin to myself, and imagine the biblical level of outrage that this decision would have caused if a Ferrari driver had been involved....:)

Ah well. It was probably the right decision in all honesty. Score one for the stewards using common sense rather than a literal interpretation of the rulebook I guess.

Mr Jack said:
Meh, racing incident 50/50 - neither driver deserved a penalty.

If I'm honest, I'd have to say I agree. But unfortunately a precedent was set last year and a driver was punished for a pretty similar incident. Kovy was lucky to get away with that one.
 
So, he did break the rule....but he won't be punished. I'm just going to sit back, grin to myself, and imagine the biblical level of outrage that this decision would have caused if a Ferrari driver had been involved....:)

Ah well. It was probably the right decision in all honesty. Score one for the stewards using common sense rather than a literal interpretation of the rulebook I guess.

So is this how all the steering wheels will be designed in the future (or software ) ;)

Ok so local stewards at a different race might have not been so leniant but even so, I can see that being a "design" copied around in the future lol

Also think of consistancy - (ok so the FIA are known to NOT be consistant) but this decision leaves an opportunity for others hauled up for the same reason in the future to exploit

It made little difference to the title race so far but it could still be the single crucial point JB didnt get (that imo his race today deserved) that causes the title to be lost.....by an unfair decision by Brawn's point of view

Iffy to say the least imo

(after all look at the speeding in the pitlane fiasco by Vettel in Singapore - Coulthard mentioned it was down to the curvature of the pitlane or something, I cant see how that works but if thats how precise the FIA want to be it should follow for everything)
 
I'm not too happy with the Rosberg result, I had been watching Button gradually reeling him in on the live timing and without the safety car I think Button would have passed him.

That he did take an advantage by driving faster than allowed was ascertained. I really hope Button doesn't lose the championship by the points this incident has robbed him of.
 
Agree on Kovalinen, what got me was Leggard suggesting that Sutil shouldn't have been trying to pass there and he was known for making mistakes. It was clear Sutil had the advantage in the corner and Kova should have yielded. The last thing we need is drivers being even more scared of overtaking.

Finally a decent bit of driving from Kova though with the move on Fisi.

Race could have been more exciting but one of the better ones this year I thought.
 
Button will win the title in Brazil if...

He finishes third or better
OR Vettel finishes lower than second and Barrichello finishes lower than fourth
OR he outscores Barrichello by four points
 
Good race, button yet again scoring points from a dreadful weekend. He needs to sort quail out.

*totally unrelated and feels sorry for himself*
Also messed my ankle up which is now over twice the size and I can't walk :( and standings pretty darn hard.
 
33957088841841090584.jpg


Highlights - Japanese Grand Prix
Red Bull's Sebastian Vettel leads from start to finish to win the Japanese Grand Prix at Suzuka.

Interview - top three drivers at Suzuka
Red Bull driver Sebastian Vettel describes his feelings after winning the Japanese Grand Prix, ahead of Toyota's Jarno Trulli and Lewis Hamilton of McLaren.

Japanese GP post-race forum
A full replay of BBC Sport's interactive forum following Sebastian Vettel's victory at the Japanese Grand Prix. (UK users only)


99218159033727484066.jpg
 

:D

So is this how all the steering wheels will be designed in the future (or software ) ;)

Well, quite. Believe me - I've considered just about every plausible argument that could have cropped up over this (and a few pretty implausible ones as well) because I just know that this forum would have erupted had, say, Kimi been the one to get pulled up rather than Rosberg. We'd have had deuse, sunama et al just pouring **** into this thread!

Ok so local stewards at a different race might have not been so leniant but even so, I can see that being a "design" copied around in the future lol

I suspect this is a "limitation" that every car already has. It just took the precise conditions (safety car, Rosberg at that point on that circuit with that fuel load) to become an issue.

Also think of consistancy - (ok so the FIA are known to NOT be consistant) but this decision leaves an opportunity for others hauled up for the same reason in the future to exploit

I think that someone would do well to exploit it.

It made little difference to the title race so far but it could still be the single crucial point JB didnt get (that imo his race today deserved) that causes the title to be lost.....by an unfair decision by Brawn's point of view

Iffy to say the least imo

If Button loses this title from here then you might as well blame his other poor races this season. This won't be the one race that cost him the title in that scenario.

(after all look at the speeding in the pitlane fiasco by Vettel in Singapore - Coulthard mentioned it was down to the curvature of the pitlane or something, I cant see how that works but if thats how precise the FIA want to be it should follow for everything)

I think that one will run and run yet.

what got me was Leggard suggesting that Sutil shouldn't have been trying to pass there and he was known for making mistakes. It was clear Sutil had the advantage in the corner and Kova should have yielded. The last thing we need is drivers being even more scared of overtaking.

Kovy should have hung back and given Sutil the corner. I was mightily amused about the incident at first though - look at how the two entered the chicane, you'd almost swear it was Senna and Prost driving those two cars if the McLaren had actually turned in on the Force India at the first bit of the corner! Was all very reminiscent of 1989.

Race could have been more exciting but one of the better ones this year I thought.

The fact that it actually was one of the better races this year would frighten most sane governing bodies. But we all know Max's cadre aren't sane....

ARI VATANEN FOR PRESIDENT!!!!!!!!!!!!

*totally unrelated and feels sorry for himself*
Also messed my ankle up which is now over twice the size and I can't walk :( and standings pretty darn hard.

Ouch. Hope it heals up quick :(
 
Bit of a pants race, Trulli had good race pace well done on his second, all looked pretty rosy for Vettel, only move of note was Kovy, stuffing it up Fisi, quite a good little move, shame he was slow for the other 99.7% of the race.
 
fastest laps-

01 M Webber Red Bull 1:32.569
02 S Vettel Red Bull 1:32.572
03 K Raikkonen Ferrari 1:32.999
04 J Trulli Toyota 1:33.152
05 J Button Brawn 1:33.251
06 L Hamilton McLaren 1:33.259
07 R Kubica BMW 1:33.334
08 G Fisichella Ferrari 1:33.479
09 N Rosberg Williams 1:33.595
10 N Heidfeld BMW 1:33.600
11 A Sutil Force India 1:33.668
12 H Kovalainen McLaren 1:33.801
13 R Barrichello Brawn 1:33.910
14 F Alonso Renault 1:33.946
15 J Alguersuari Toro Rosso 1:34.049
16 T Liuzzi Force India 1:34.294
17 R Grosjean Renault 1:34.643
18 K Nakajima Williams 1:34.783
19 S Buemi Toro Rosso 1:35.392


think its safe to say a red bull was going to win that.
 
I cannot stand Brundles attitude. Not that not wanting to wait for a quick chat is any example there alone, I just cannot stand his pompous 'get out of my way I'm important' method all the time. That comment 'oh we haven't got time to wait for some stupid questions'. He so winds me up! :mad:
 
Back
Top Bottom