Poll: Syrian Chemical Weapon Attack
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Why thank you, forget Russell and shouty nutcase. It was the bit at the end I found interesting, Wesley Clark and his comments on a middle eastern 'plan' this guy is a retired general of the United States Army, he believes that this was planned ahead of time to destroy the governments in 7 nations.. With everything that's going on / been going on in the middle east it's def an interesting point of view. All the involvement that the US have in the middle east is always controversial..
There's more here. 5 years ago...
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What's America going to go if Russia starts running anti missile duties? because they certainly wouldn't attack anything Russian and risk starting a proper war
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as said in the other thread - wesley clark is a bit of a dumbass
he nearly started ww3 and his junior officers had to disobey his orders to prevent it
Kosovo was a successful intervention despite him, not because of him
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you are the one who has 0 sensibility
40N6 variant which is deployed on S-400 and S-300 also.
S-200 which is over 45 years old has 300km range.
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Full video here, lot's of different people's opinions, news clips. Interesting watch..
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The russian navy only uses the S300 SA-N-6 variants (50 mile range) in the majority and the SA-N-21 (150 mile) which is on 1 ship in the Northern Fleet. The S400 and the S500 naval variants are still under development. The 40N6 Naval isn't even hinted at, but there are some S400F capable refits expected 2015. the 40N6 TEL (land based) are supposed to be deployed sometime in 2013 but there's no sign of them yet.
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This Wesley Clark chap. He talks about being handed classified documents and having those documents summarised.
He then appears on a talk show and reveals the content of these classified documents. Since no action is taken against him for doing this, I can't help but think he's just another part in the machine, with a brief to spread disinformation.
They wouldn't go all out for Snowden for leaking details of classified info, but let some retired general do exactly the same thing with impunity, right? He'd still be subject to the US equivalent of the official secrets act, and if he actually did share classified information with the public, he'd be prosecuted...
He then appears on a talk show and reveals the content of these classified documents. Since no action is taken against him for doing this, I can't help but think he's just another part in the machine, with a brief to spread disinformation.
They wouldn't go all out for Snowden for leaking details of classified info, but let some retired general do exactly the same thing with impunity, right? He'd still be subject to the US equivalent of the official secrets act, and if he actually did share classified information with the public, he'd be prosecuted...
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id say its because he is making it all up to sell his new book
Let the Americans have their little war, they do like playing the role of the worlds policeman when it suits them. I'm happy we are not going along for the ride this time.
I get the feeling Obama regrets using the 'red line' soundbite. He seems to have backed himself into a corner, and now he will attack a UN member state to save face.
I get the feeling Obama regrets using the 'red line' soundbite. He seems to have backed himself into a corner, and now he will attack a UN member state to save face.
That's also plausible.
What doesn't strike me as being possible is that he's spilling classified information with impunity. Doesn't add up.
I'd say you'd probably find a much lower sucess rate in reality... we may see soon anyway as Syria will probably have the opportunity to test her air defences at least...
FWIW there is a bit of a difference between a ship intercepting something heading towards itself/neighboring vessels and a ship intercepting something passing by perpendicularly a couple of hundred miles away from it.... The Russians would need rather a lot of ships to have any impact in attempting to prevent an attack by the USA... mass of cruise missiles launched at once and they'll get a handful of them at best...
The irony of this situation, for a society so knee deep in their reverence for their military at least up until Iraq...and Fallujah as an example of American overcompensation.
The Military Industry must be trying quite hard right now to re-inspire the desire for war.
The Military Industry must be trying quite hard right now to re-inspire the desire for war.
Oh you have GOT to be kidding me???
What's next? you declare the holocaust to be a hoax?
Did you just write that like Russia would not consider it an act of war against them?
Google "missile defense system ineffective". It makes interesting reading.
Lots of researchers/academics openly stating that missile defense systems are expensive, unreliable, and largely unproven.
Well in order to achieve that, they'd have to park their ships in the way. All what, 4 of them? I cant imagine it would be difficult to route the cruise missiles safely around them.
not to mention Israel has been bombing Syria at will whenever they try to transfer stuff to Hezbollah. Hundreds of cruise missiles? If they got more than 5 id be impressed.
It wont be long until Anti-projectile Lasers are on the go, which should nullify everyone's greatest asset, of course it would appear to be a Western only thing for now.