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Sic said:
was a fantastic vocalist, but has remained stuck in the late 80s, early 90s
Arcade Fire said:
Has anyone actually said that they think that tool are the only band that do this ? If they have then you are a fool, but i can't say i have read anyone saying this, if they have please show me. Jesus for unconventional song lengths,changes in tempo and style within songs i don't think any band around at the moment does that better than Opeth, and that includes Tool. The fact that one second there is this wall of anger and agression borne out by Akerfelds deep screaming, then out of nowhere you get classical guitar pieces with this angelic voice singing, Yes there are better poets, singers, song writers and musicians out there, but there are few that combine the levels of all of them like maynard.
Take Dylan, superior poet and lyricist, but then Maynard ****** all over him from a great height when it comes to singing, there are much better artists out there that are superior at one specific thing, but there aren't many who are as good at all of them, Maynard is a good musician, a good poet, a good songwriter and a stunning singer, even i he was cack at all the rest his singing would still stand up as some of the best in rock/metal.
As for getting it, you don't have to get Tool to like them, i don't get a huge amount of what maynard is singing about because i have no knowledge of astrology and things like that to whic he does make large reference to in many songs especially on laterlaus, Parabol/a are the most obvious songs to get if you want to get them, but it strikes me that it's always going to have more of an effect on someone who actually knows and believes in what a singer is saying does it not? I will bet you anything that a former drug addict who has gone through the pain of loosing friends and happens to like the style of music would be far more effected by NiN's Hurt, than i ever will be, because they know exactly what trent is saying in te song. Same goes for Tool if you actually know and have an understanding of what maynards is singing about then it's going to have a deeper effect on you.
Hell i just love the music, i can see that there is deeper maning to the songs that i don't get because i don't know much at all about the things that maynard is singing about, does it bother me ? Nope, music can and does have meaning, but even that is subjective, play exactly the same song to 1,000 people and you will get a huge amount of difference as to what the song means to them, than what it meant to the person that wrote it. Music has a great power i've seen people reduced to tears by music, i know big classical fans that are brought to tears by Mozarts death Requiem, does that make them pretentious ? Or does it just mean than music has an emotional power to it ?
Some music you can just see where the artist was coming from when they wrote it, NiN's the downward spiral has a definate stroy to it, the album progresses as it goes along from anger to begin with, slowly getting darker and more depressed until it gets to Hurt at the end.
Sic said:
I was kind of sad, as when I saw Audioslave the first time round he was absolutely amazing - total vocal control and the best I'd ever seen live before I saw Maynard do a 50 second scream live with APC
More recently his voice has gone. I don't know if he threw it out from too much touring or what but it was a sad thing to see/hear.Spud - very good constructive post
I don't see how really enjoying a band's music can make you pretentious either 
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Enjoying a band's music doesn't make you seem pretentious, and neither does being emotionally affected by music. What makes you seem pretentious is saying things likeIceBus said:Spud - very good constructive post
Arcade Fire said:
Seeing as those were the only quotes I said I can only answer for them, I don't agree with any of the other sentiments you've quoted. I was simply asking what people were planning to do on the day of the release of the new album? i.e. are people going to listen through it all in one go, flick through tracks to get a sense of it, wait until they get home and pump it out on a 7.1 system, put it on their iPod, listen through to the music alone, try and work out the lyrics, build an altar made of CD cases and burn incense?
Is it not fairly natural to want to try and turn people on to stuff that you really enjoy to try and share some of that enjoyment with them?
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IceBus said:
Agreed - also, I dont want to hear anyone talk about the album given that several of us are making a conerted effort NOT to download it...
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Anyone know if X-FM are playing Vicarious yet?
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I just heard Vicarious on Radio 1. I want this album!
wyrdo said:Edit: What about Layne Staley? Of course he's dead nowbut I thought he was a great vocalist.
Awful as it sounds I always forget about Layne
He was unbelievably good and has spawned more wannabes than any other vocalist I can think of. Other than the Pearl Jam performance, the MTV Alice In Chains unplugged is the best of that series and was doubly sad as it was recorded shortly before he died. Very good shout though, he was an amazingly versatile and soulful singer.