Name one reputable economist who agrees there is an inherent equal work pay gap to Woman, there aren't any, the only people who are pushing that narrative is those SJWs who invented it and far left news outlets.
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Name one reputable economist who agrees there is an inherent equal work pay gap to Woman, there aren't any, the only people who are pushing that narrative is those SJWs who invented it and far left news outlets.
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The data suggests otherwise?
What Data? The only data there is shows when you drill down into the details exists because of the choices Woman make.
So again what do you propose we do about that? take away their choice in the name of equality?
Now I have to preface my reply with the fact that I have on occasion used some anecdotal information in some of my posting here.
But I am willing to bet that if we actually had the details here that your claim would at least to a significant degree be found to be incorrect.
That fact that you describe your wife's friend as apparently working in a 'profession' and that there was an apparently a difference in her pay and a colleagues in the first place is highly indicative that she is/was working in a more specialist field with negotiated salary and often where there are significant difference in roles.
It like the Carrie Gracie argument where the BBC capitulated and paid her the same as the North American editor when she was the China editor with back pay on the basis that they were doing the 'same' job when it was obvious they were not
Yeah for a start Carrie was working half the hours of her colleague, the BBC still capitulated though because that is the world they have created for themselves, i have no sympathy for them.
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How can it be incorrect, its based on fact. Same role, same job, same location, same company. Its not anecdotal its just an example of sex discrimination, which is covered by law but still happens, a lot. Wife is an employment lawyer and it is quite a regular occurrence.
This article/data shows there are issues.
https://www.theguardian.com/money/2...ures-reveal-eight-in-10-uk-firms-pay-men-more
While, as mentioned, there are factors that do relate to womens choices its not all about that.
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Does the study factor in things like single mothers or fathers who work only a few hours to work around there kids etc
Hell why don't we go the whole hog and factor in child maintenance payments from the absent parent?
Im being silly with my argument but its obvious the people doing these studies dont have thw whole picture and probably only come out with this crap to get a headline.
Hell why don't we go the whole hog and factor in child maintenance payments from the absent parent?
Im being silly with my argument but its obvious the people doing these studies dont have thw whole picture and probably only come out with this crap to get a headline.
It is a result of the lefts ideology of being utterly indiscriminate, for example anyone with an ounce of common sense can work out that female tennis players earning the same amount as men for playing less sets and less hours on court is grossly unfair on the men whose game is longer, more competitive and a far bigger generator of money.
The left simply see a man and woman having a job and a difference in pay and see it as unequality, whilse completely ignoring all of the other discriminatory aspects of why there may be a difference in pay.
Watch this video to understand the mindset at play:
The left simply see a man and woman having a job and a difference in pay and see it as unequality, whilse completely ignoring all of the other discriminatory aspects of why there may be a difference in pay.
Watch this video to understand the mindset at play:
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Not sure why people have an issue with it, its not a left thing, its just about equality. Some of you lot seem to have real problems at life. 
I am sorry but you seen to have just demonstrated your total ignorance of the actual argument.
There is no sensible argument that there is a not a difference in the median or average (mode) aggragated pay of all men and women.
That's not the issue. Its well established that on average mens aggragated pay is higher than women's and that this is generally also the case when the data is broken down into some subsets for different industries.
The argument is over why this is the case. Certain feminists argue the 'wage' gap (more accurately earnings gap) is because women are paid less for doing the same jobs. Which is almost total nonsence as we know that women and men dont do the same types of jobs when looked at as groups.
One statistic that should give you a hint of this is the circa 96% rate of male fatalities in the workplace.
You and the Guardian article are comparing apples to oranges... .
As to your wifes friend what job(s) , what role(s) , what location(s) are we taking about
Given your lack of a grasp as to why men and women, on average, receive different wages I'm not at all confident that any further data you supply won't just confirm my earlier suspicions.
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When I accepted an offer at my current company I negotiated my salary. I declined several offers and told them the minimum package I would accept to move from my old company. We came to an agreement.
As a result, if I am paid either more or less than my colleague, despite us working the same role, hours, etc, then is one of us being discriminated against? They would have had the same opportunity as me to negotiate.
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The whole point of the gender pay gap statistic is to make people think there's discrimination where there isn't. It's similar to 'affordable housing'.
The whole point of feminism is to get both men and women working, but for half the salary the man used to get alone, so that big business can have twice the output for the same cost. The family is worse off because there's no proper parenting, cooking, wellbeing, etc. Add childcare cost and the family is also financially worse off than it used to be.
The whole point of feminism is to get both men and women working, but for half the salary the man used to get alone, so that big business can have twice the output for the same cost. The family is worse off because there's no proper parenting, cooking, wellbeing, etc. Add childcare cost and the family is also financially worse off than it used to be.
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We are debating one of the reasons there is a pay gap, one of those factors is sex discrimination. This is not nonsense, this is an indisputable fact.
Its irrelevant what the job, role or location is.
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Its not to make everyone on the same role get paid exactly the same, its just to pay everyone fairly, regardless of sex.
And your link showed exactly no evidence to show that there was a difference in pay in the sexes for people performing the same roles for the same amount of hours with the same experience etc.
Paying people "fairly" is a completely different argument to paying them an equal wage. But you were saying that the issue was unequal pay, bit unfair pay.
My example (which is completely true) is one explanation for what your wife is seeing. Both myself and my colleagues are paid very fairly. But we will be on different wages because we negotiated different wages.
I hope they are indeed paid more than me. Good on them if they are.
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Employment lawyers and tribunals disagree with your opinions by using facts. There is inequality in the workplace, its not debatable. The reasons maybe are.
Seems like standard GD left rage.
Seems like standard GD left rage.
But yet you haven't yet produced any 'facts' to support an argument that women are to any significant statistical degree paid less because they are women and not due to other factors.
Standard GD 'left' arguing style?
You're beginning to sound like an SJW, throwing around wild neurotic accusations without a shred of evidence.
