Talk Radio, Julia Hartley-Brewer, the Gender Pay Gap

Men and Women are paid the same for the same work.

You can't actually pay anyone less for the same work, that falls under existing discrimination laws.
How does that fit with new graduates?

Studies on the gender pay gap showed that a male graduate is far more likely to ask for a higher wage than a woman in interview. Also at annual reviews, this is repeated.

Clearly companies are taking both male and female graduate on different rates of pay or the pay gneger gap studies should have shown no difference in pay which it didn’t.

So why aren’t all these companies being prosecuted?
 
How does that fit with new graduates?

Studies on the gender pay gap showed that a male graduate is far more likely to ask for a higher wage than a woman in interview. Also at annual reviews, this is repeated.

Clearly companies are taking both male and female graduate on different rates of pay or the pay gneger gap studies should have shown no difference in pay which it didn’t.

So why aren’t all these companies being prosecuted?

So studies show that people are different and the choices they make affect their outcomes.

Well golly gosh what a shock!

The problem is you are looking at averages and extrapolating a form of systemic oppression when there isn't one.

Some jobs have negotiable salaries - I would suggest this is probably a good idea for more complex jobs where a one job title / salary approach isn't going to cut it.

Men, on average, are less agreeable then women and more likely to aggressively argue for higher pay in pay negotiations.

This doesn't mean men are, on average, are being paid more because they they are men any more that a job were physical strength correlates to pay means men get paid more then women because, on average, men are stronger then women.

The 'solution' to this problem is to raise awareness in women about being more assertive if they wish to secure the best renumeration not punishing thoose that are more assertive by paying them the same as someone that can't be bothered to sell themselves.
 
Totally agree which is why most of the gender pay gap is nonsense. If some person who happens to be a woman, isn’t very good at negotiating and selling themselves and gets a lower pay offer, why should that mean they should be offered more?

There are some men who aren’t as good as other men at negotiating payrises. I use to work with a guy who got called into a disciplinary hearing and came out with a £5k payrise. Now that was impressive.
 
Glad we got this sorted, sex discrimination doesn't exist, all women are treated equally in the work place, gender pay gap is a construct of sjw lefties trying to oppress the white man(or something).

Luckily my wife gets paid a lot of cash to sort these things out, but then does my wife even exist......:confused:
 
Is anyone arguing that individual cases don't exist?

Bit of a difference there though, pointing out that some individuals have had grounds to take an employer to a tribunal isn't really the same as arguing for a gap in general.
 
There is a gap, all studies have shown there is. Problem is those same studies show that it’s down to three things

1. Women don’t ask for pay rises or are poorer in negotiating how much they ask for.
2. Women aren’t prepared to do as many extra free overtime hours as men
3. Women are more likely to take career breaks and take time off for having children.

Some women seem to think that taking all of the above into account that they should be paid the same. I disagree.

I would not be be happy if my male colleague was useless at asking for a pay rise and he got the same every time I negotiated one, he worked 10 hours less per week and he took several years out to go travel the worked and then came back to work on the same wage as me.

It’s not about male/female to me. It’s about effort and experience.
 
Depends how you define the gap tbh... some studies demonstrate a gap by doing things like just comparing pay without taking into account hours worked, the nature of the role etc..etc..
 
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