Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black

sativa · 12 Sep 2017 at 10:04

what is the performance gain for these sticks in games - 5-10fps?

HeX · 12 Sep 2017 at 10:25

sativa said:
what is the performance gain for these sticks in games - 5-10fps?

Compared to what? Other 3200MHz memory? Pretty much nothing. Compared to 2133/2400? Can be quite a large difference, depends on the game. Some see a lot of improvement, others not so much. On heavily dependent games then you're looking at about a 10fps difference going from 2133 to 3200.

https://community.amd.com/community...emory-oc-showdown-frequency-vs-memory-timings

https://www.techpowerup.com/reviews/AMD/Ryzen_Memory_Analysis/

sativa · 12 Sep 2017 at 10:28

This is helpful. I have 3000 sticks, yet they are unstable above 2400 :rolleyes:

So, this is a noticeable gain, and the cost uplift is reasonable for the quality.

8 Pack · 12 Sep 2017 at 16:18

^^ Just get the Pack and dont look back!!! :-)

(Just train back)

sgavan · 12 Sep 2017 at 20:41

Good review of them here as well https://www.vortez.net/articles_pages/team_dark_pro_8_pack_edition_review,1.html I have these 16GB and they are great

sativa · 12 Sep 2017 at 21:14

you have to pay premium for someone to hand test each and every stick and check for stability. It is like buying a bespoke suit, you may a premium; but in this case the extra is pitched about right.

8 Pack · 12 Sep 2017 at 22:07

It's special ic, special pcb and special spd all of which took time and resources to develop. Also as you point out binning is very strict. So these factors all contribute to a great product but also the slight premium.

Kei · 19 Sep 2017 at 08:37

1920x at stock in my gigabyte aorus x399 gaming 7 (F3d bios) with memory running xmp profile 1 failed hci memtest at 58.3%. Memory voltage is manually set at 1.35V just to be sure.

I've also tried upping CPU SOC to 1.2V and CPU SB SOC to 1V and dropped tRC back to 97 and it's still failed HCI at 60%. I've now dropped the memory back to 2800 and am running memtest again to see if it can pass.

8 Pack · 19 Sep 2017 at 09:09

I tried this board not one issue for me. Post 175 of this thread for ss.

Maybe your cache or Imc on the Cpu is weak.

Try 1.45V mem.
1.125 soc.
And try different Procodt values around 60 Ohms.

zoomee · 19 Sep 2017 at 09:16

8 Pack said:
It's special ic, special pcb and special spd all of which took time and resources to develop. Also as you point out binning is very strict. So these factors all contribute to a great product but also the slight premium.

SOLD! - it's actually not that much of a premium tbh - very competitively priced.
I hope its plug n play on a Ryzen system bud! - i'm getting too old for this tweaking stuff now lol

8 Pack · 19 Sep 2017 at 09:18

^Which board?? I may have already tested. I tried most and pretty much all plug and play 16GB 3200c. Most 32GB plug and play 3200 but not all.

zoomee · 19 Sep 2017 at 09:19

Asus B350 Strix - it was recommended along with this set of RAM in the Ryzen thread.

8 Pack · 19 Sep 2017 at 09:26

Yeah tried it working fine plug set docp. Done. The screen shots of testing are in this thread around post number 175

zoomee · 19 Sep 2017 at 09:32

WISPECK!

Give the chaps in the warehouse a kick to progress my order will ya please - bowt time I went back to having a REAL computer lol

Kei · 19 Sep 2017 at 10:47

8 Pack said:
I tried this board not one issue for me. Post 175 of this thread for ss.

Maybe your cache or Imc on the Cpu is weak.

Try 1.45V mem.
1.125 soc.
And try different Procodt values around 60 Ohms.

Begun wondering whether the IMC might be average. Left it testing xmp timings at 2800MHz and so far it's past 150% ok.

Trying your settings for 3200. Cannot find an option for ProcODT in the bios.

8 Pack · 19 Sep 2017 at 18:27

Yeah sorry that's an Asus setting I use for tuning.

Kei · 19 Sep 2017 at 19:38

Ok, 1.45V mem, 1.125V soc at 3200 xmp timings failed at 340%. Finally found ProcODT in the bios so I've now manually set it to 60 ohms and will try again.

8 Pack · 20 Sep 2017 at 09:09

This really looks like Imc, Cache limitation. Try one stick at a time and test.

Kei · 20 Sep 2017 at 20:53

Failed again running all sticks with the ProcODT changed to 60ohms. Pulled all but one stick in slot 2A and it tested fine. Will resume testing tomorrow.

Kei · 21 Sep 2017 at 11:23

Second stick seems fine. Not gone quite as far testing as I need to get another one going before getting off to work. Same settings as above in slot 2A again.