Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black

8 Pack · 6 Jan 2018 at 12:20

Yeah that's wise 3200 is a great performance bump from stock ram anyway as cache is running at 3200 too and c14 is terrible tightest xmp you will find at 3200.

marco.da.man · 7 Jan 2018 at 16:21

@8 Pack
good afternoon sir

quick question for you please, if i added another 16gb to my current 16gb ram, will there be a difference in speed at all and will timings be the same ? also its it worth upgrading to 32gb or is 16gb plenty ?

8 Pack · 11 Jan 2018 at 18:35

16gb plenty for gaming. On Intel 32gb no issue same speed upto around 3733-3866mhz. Amd depends on boards and cpu imc. High end boards has a much better chance of doing really well. The mems can always go high the limit is cpu and board.

R0o-8ear · 13 Jan 2018 at 12:33

latest x370-f bios update has the 3600mhz ram sticks running stable at 3466 @ stock volts and cas16. previously I couldn't get it to train above 3420 ish with any timings

8 Pack · 14 Jan 2018 at 15:57

Good to know. Your cpu imc must be solid as well as maybe enhanced training on the bios.

LambChop · 19 Jan 2018 at 20:37

Just ordered the 16gb set to go with my 8700k and Z370-E motherboard. Hopefully everything is ok, more focus seemed to be with AMD hardware with this memory, maybe that was due to the issues with ryzen. Anyway..... 8 pack, I've just watched the video you made for this memory. Wouldnt it be faster to keep the memory at XMP rather than oc'ing it to 3866 at a higher CAS rating ? I always thought lower CAS is faster no matter the speed. So 3200 @ CAS 14 would be faster than 3866 @ CAS 18 ?

zola25 · 21 Jan 2018 at 09:12

^ It should be fine. I couldn't get either of my kits to XMP speeds on either of my Ryzen platforms. With 8700K/Z370 it was simply drop in, set XMP and no looking back.

marco.da.man · 21 Jan 2018 at 13:29

8 Pack · 21 Jan 2018 at 21:40

LambChop said:
Just ordered the 16gb set to go with my 8700k and Z370-E motherboard. Hopefully everything is ok, more focus seemed to be with AMD hardware with this memory, maybe that was due to the issues with ryzen. Anyway..... 8 pack, I've just watched the video you made for this memory. Wouldnt it be faster to keep the memory at XMP rather than oc'ing it to 3866 at a higher CAS rating ? I always thought lower CAS is faster no matter the speed. So 3200 @ CAS 14 would be faster than 3866 @ CAS 18 ?

No its not focused on amd as such. Intel works perfectly.... It's always a trade off with latency settings and speed. Only way to run c14 at 3866 is with high voltage otherwise you have to compromise something. For me in testing for performance it was really diminished returns after 16-16-16 at 3600mhz..

LambChop · 22 Jan 2018 at 11:23

8 Pack said:
No its not focused on amd as such. Intel works perfectly.... It's always a trade off with latency settings and speed. Only way to run c14 at 3866 is with high voltage otherwise you have to compromise something. For me in testing for performance it was really diminished returns after 16-16-16 at 3600mhz..

Thanks 8pack. Cant wait to try your memory. Think I'll stick with XMP though. CAS 14 is crazy.

Nugsy88 · 18 Feb 2018 at 18:53

I can't get these to run stable at xmp during games, they can pass stability tests all day at 3200 1.45v but play a game and eventually it will crash. Just ran them on auto (2133 cas 15) for 2 days to test and no game crashes. Poor IMC on my processor? CPU is a 1700 @ 3.6

DarkHorizon472 · 18 Feb 2018 at 19:18

Are you on the latest bios ?

If you are you could try upping soc and vcore a little. When I went from 16gb to 32gb I needed to up vcore from 1.2 to 1.25 to be completely stable. I have 1.13 soc and 1.4v dram voltage. Like you say you may just be a bit unlucky, but most can easily hit 3.7ghz with no problems with 3200c14.

Games like bf1 are good at showing up instability even when other tests pass fine.

Nugsy88 · 18 Feb 2018 at 19:35

Yes the mobo is asus rog strix b350-f on the last bios and I put soc up to 1.15 the cpu is on 1.35v and the dram was on 1.45v to try to get it to not crash games. Unfortunately it still does.

DarkHorizon472 · 18 Feb 2018 at 19:57

Sounds like you are very unlucky. Might be worth resetting the bios just in case and starting again with your settings from scratch.

You could try the next ram divider down which used to be 3066 depending on the bios rather than 3200. Others may be able to make more suggestions to try.

8 Pack · 19 Feb 2018 at 13:39

Seems like weak cache / IMC. Try tuning SOC voltage around the 1.125-1.175 area. Also try 2T command rate.

Nugsy88 · 19 Feb 2018 at 22:17

I will try the settings 8pack recommended and give an update.

Nugsy88 · 21 Feb 2018 at 20:56

Tried the settings recommended by 8pack but games still crash. Guess I'll start trying 3066 and below

marco.da.man · 22 Feb 2018 at 09:39

@8 Pack will the ram squeeze more than 3200 out i.e 3466 or is it best leaving at 3200 sir ?

DarkHorizon472 · 22 Feb 2018 at 10:21

In my experience with 2 x 8gb and upping the dram voltage to 1.4v it was stable at 3333c14 by simply choosing docp and changing the divider to 3333 or using the stilts 3466c15 preset in the motherboards bios. I am not bothered with extensive testing and tweaking, just want a fairly simple stable overclock.

orbitalwalsh · 22 Feb 2018 at 11:02

@8 Pack , seems Gigabytes F22B bios for Aorus k7/5 can get 3600hz on trident (overpriced) sticks- think your 3600hz kit could match or beat this ?

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