Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black

Dirk Diggler · 9 Aug 2019 at 20:39

Cool, I'll drop it to 1.35

Cheers, I would have taken ages to suss the incremental steps to 3600.

opethdisciple · 9 Aug 2019 at 20:47

String said:
Cool, I'll drop it to 1.35

Cheers, I would have taken ages to suss the incremental steps to 3600.

It's fixed in the 1.0.0.3 AB Agesa at least for ASUS.

newbzors · 10 Aug 2019 at 11:13

Hi folks, just bought this ram and it’s great! I was wondering what the height of the modules are with all of the heatspreader removed? I understand that removing the top will bring it down to 37mm, but I’m hoping to shave a few more mm off to fit under the Black Ridge cooler in my Dan Case. Anyone have any insight into this? @8 Pack maybe you know this

thank you!!!

PieEater · 10 Aug 2019 at 15:29

Update on my timings for 3600 @ 1.44v, these are Memtest stable, 51800 Read, 28787 Write, 50400 Copy, 66.9ns Latency. SOC and CLDO VDDG are both set to 1.1v CLDO VDDP is on Auto.

I have changed the table that I was working from, it now includes the Auto settings from my motherboard (CH7 Bios 2501 AGESA 1002) as well as the figures from Ryzen Calculator for Profile versions 1 & 2 Safe and Fast, which hopefully will be useful as it's possible the Version 1 timings might be stable on AGESA 1003 and later but I'm waiting for Asus to update the BIOS for my board.

opethdisciple · 10 Aug 2019 at 23:34

PieEater said:
Update on my timings for 3600 @ 1.44v, these are Memtest stable, 51800 Read, 28787 Write, 50400 Copy, 66.9ns Latency.

I have changed the table that I was working from, it now includes the Auto settings from my motherboard (CH7 Bios 2501 AGESA 1002) as well as the figures from Ryzen Calculator for Profile versions 1 & 2 Safe and Fast, which hopefully will be useful as it's possible the Version 1 timings might be stable on AGESA 1003 and later but I'm waiting for Asus to update the BIOS for my board.

SOC voltage, CLDO VDDG and CLDO VDDP?

opethdisciple · 11 Aug 2019 at 01:05

To run these ram sticks (3200MHz ones) at 3600MHz CL16, what kind of voltage do we think is needed? I have 1.35v set not note sure if that's good or not.

I can pass 400% HCI but games will still freeze.

Deleted User 456458 · 11 Aug 2019 at 07:16

opethdisciple said:
To run these ram sticks (3200MHz ones) at 3600MHz CL16, what kind of voltage do we think is needed? I have 1.35v set not note sure if that's good or not.

I can pass 400% HCI but games will still freeze.

BDie can do 1.5v for 24/7 no problem. Make sure where some air hitting your ram.

Dirk Diggler · 11 Aug 2019 at 08:01

opethdisciple said:
To run these ram sticks (3200MHz ones) at 3600MHz CL16, what kind of voltage do we think is needed? I have 1.35v set not note sure if that's good or not.

I can pass 400% HCI but games will still freeze.

I got a boot freeze on mine @ 3600 so I dropped to 3200 C16. All good so far, therefore I'm thinking of tightening to C14 and sticking for now.

hyperseven · 11 Aug 2019 at 18:57

Is lower latency (Aida bench) or higher frequency better?

faceman123 · 12 Aug 2019 at 13:10

whats the best balance between tight timings and freq? i have the 3200 c14 - what speed is best/timings

Besty · 12 Aug 2019 at 15:49

faceman123 said:
whats the best balance between tight timings and freq? i have the 3200 c14 - what speed is best/timings

3600 C14-14-14 2T at 1.4v is a good target on air for 2 x 8GB with no active ram cooling. 3600 C12-12-12-1T at 1.5v-1.65v possible with my 8 pack kit but sticks get too hot after prolonged use.

faceman123 · 12 Aug 2019 at 15:56

Besty said:
3600 C14-14-14 2T at 1.4v is a good target on air for 2 x 8GB with no active ram cooling. 3600 C12-12-12-1T at 1.5v-1.65v possible with my 8 pack kit but sticks get too hot after prolonged use.

Thanks man is it. Possible for 2 sets to achieve these

Besty · 12 Aug 2019 at 16:23

faceman123 said:
Thanks man is it. Possible for 2 sets to achieve these

too many variables to give straight answer. i would shoot for 3600 16-16-16 2T with 32GB highly dependent on motherboard and ram sticks as to what is stable.

faceman123 · 12 Aug 2019 at 16:44

Besty said:
too many variables to give straight answer. i would shoot for 3600 16-16-16 2T with 32GB highly dependent on motherboard and ram sticks as to what is stable.

No worries thanks a lot, hopefully the aorus master pays off

Deleted User 456458 · 12 Aug 2019 at 17:16

faceman123 said:
No worries thanks a lot, hopefully the aorus master pays off

GB Z390 are T Topology. If you're shooting for 4000mhz or above, you'll need all slots filled.

faceman123 · 12 Aug 2019 at 19:08

Robert896r1 said:
GB Z390 are T Topology. If you're shooting for 4000mhz or above, you'll need all slots filled.

Thanks man

Lolik · 17 Aug 2019 at 14:43

PieEater said:
Update on my timings for 3600 @ 1.44v, these are Memtest stable, 51800 Read, 28787 Write, 50400 Copy, 66.9ns Latency. SOC and CLDO VDDG are both set to 1.1v CLDO VDDP is on Auto.

I have changed the table that I was working from, it now includes the Auto settings from my motherboard (CH7 Bios 2501 AGESA 1002) as well as the figures from Ryzen Calculator for Profile versions 1 & 2 Safe and Fast, which hopefully will be useful as it's possible the Version 1 timings might be stable on AGESA 1003 and later but I'm waiting for Asus to update the BIOS for my board.

Basically using the same 14-15-14-14-28-42-288 3600MHz ,the rest from 3433 Fast V1, only difference Power down, Gear down on auto; ProOCT 34.3, the rest auto and 1.5 v (will start decreasing voltage this week).SoC offset +0.00625, VDDP 1000 (or 1v ).

Saltcreek · 17 Aug 2019 at 15:49

Just got my 3900x and 3200 memory last night. I have had several issues with getting this system running but it is finally stable with the XMP profile. I do have a couple of questions. In my bios under the timings it has numbers in grey and then a box to the right which is auto. I am assuming that the profile is using the fixed numbers in grey 14 14 14 31 T2 @ 1.365v but if I was to bump the frequency and fclk to 3600/1800 and dram to 1.4v would have to still input manual times or would it still use the profile?

Also, is AIDA64 free? I have a trial version but I am wondering if there is a version I can download which will give me the full benchmark results.

Dirk Diggler · 17 Aug 2019 at 16:03

@Saltcreek if you bump the frequency up then you'll probably have to loosen the timings - try 16-16-16-16-36. You may also need to run at 1.4v on the RAM for 3600MHz.

Aida64 is not free.

Saltcreek · 17 Aug 2019 at 16:12

String said:
@Saltcreek if you bump the frequency up then you'll probably have to loosen the timings - try 16-16-16-16-36. You may also need to run at 1.4v on the RAM for 3600MHz.

Aida64 is not free.

Thank you for the reply. I have noticed that my Cache benchmarks (get all but 1 in the trial) are about 500 to 1000 GB/s higher than what I am seeing in this thread, is that a trial version quirk? Unfortunately I do not get the latency for the L2/3 but the L1 is coming in at 0.9 ns.