Team Group Dark Pro "8 Pack Edition" 16GB (2x8GB) DDR4 PC4-25600C14 3200MHz Dual Channel Kit - Black

K4Y84 said:
Alright after this thread inspired me I had a go overclocking my 8Pack Xtreem Edition 32GB (4x8GB) 3200MHz 14-14-14-34 kit.

I was able to game for several hours last night and also run Karhu RAMTEST to over 13,000% coverage over night before I got an error running all 4 sticks at 3600 14-15-15-30 @ 1.452. I personally consider that stable enough for me but bumped up the voltage one notch to 1.458 for good measure.

To be honest I am surprised I was able to get this with 4 sticks of ram. I am running a 3900x on an Asrock Taichi x570.
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From my experience your voltage still seems too low. I am running 1.47v for 2 sticks and as far as I under stand it 4 sticks are even more fiddly to get sable. Anyway run it and if you get any instability you up the voltage. So 1.45v becomes 1.46v then 1.47v etc....

Don't go too crazy tho. My mobo over volts the ram so although I am 1.47v in the bios the voltage actually being applied is 1.488 - 1.5v.
 
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@K4Y84 The Taichi X570 seems very capable with 4 sticks of ram.
I can run mine at 3800 16.16.16.16 or at 3600 14.14.14.14
I would expect you to be able to improve your timings.
Although I do use the Patriot Viper steel 4400 kits.
 
It would be cool if there was a thread for posting what ram you have, what timings and voltages. Those 4400 Viper Kits seem to be great but I don't know what voltages they run at. I also find it funny that Patriot directly sells them on the rainforest. What a way to weed out the middle man!

Anyone experience with PVS416G413C9K it's selling elsewhere for under £100
 
opethdisciple said:
From my experience your voltage still seems to low. I am running 1.47v for 2 sticks and as far as I under stand it 4 sticks are even more fiddly to get sable. Anyway run it and if you get any instability you up the voltage. So 1.45v becomes 1.46v then 1.47v etc....

Don't go too crazy tho. My mobo over volts the ram so although I am 1.47v in the bios the voltage actually being applied is 1.488 - 1.5v.
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I wouldn't imagine that 4 sticks will need more DRAM voltage compared to 2 sticks. If any thing it will be the other voltages on the board that affect the IMC on the CPU that will need turned up, right? Just a guess.

But either way it's working for me so far using the DRAM CALC settings (see spoiler). As mentioned previously several hours gaming and 13,000% coverage (overnight) in Karho RAMTEST before I seen an error this morning and bumped the voltage up a notch accordingly. Consdering my workload on this PC.. I will consider that stable for my usage. Of course I will continue to monitor and take action as needed.

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Not sure if this is any good? I'll revert to XMP and do a comparasion.

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K4Y84 said:
I wouldn't imagine that 4 sticks will need more DRAM voltage compared to 2 sticks. If any thing it will be the other voltages on the board that affect the IMC on the CPU that will need turned up, right? Just a guess.

But either way it's working for me so far using the DRAM CALC settings (see spoiler). As mentioned previously several hours gaming and 13,000% coverage (overnight) in Karho RAMTEST before I seen an error this morning and bumped the voltage up a notch accordingly. Consdering my workload on this PC.. I will consider that stable for my usage. Of course I will continue to monitor and take action as needed.

YEaUvVt.png

Not sure if this is any good? I'll revert to XMP and do a comparasion.

bzQs9nc.png
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Could try reducing the TRFC to bring down latency. should be able to get it to around 300.
 
K4Y84 said:
I wouldn't imagine that 4 sticks will need more DRAM voltage compared to 2 sticks. If any thing it will be the other voltages on the board that affect the IMC on the CPU that will need turned up, right? Just a guess.

But either way it's working for me so far using the DRAM CALC settings (see spoiler). As mentioned previously several hours gaming and 13,000% coverage (overnight) in Karho RAMTEST before I seen an error this morning and bumped the voltage up a notch accordingly. Consdering my workload on this PC.. I will consider that stable for my usage. Of course I will continue to monitor and take action as needed.

YEaUvVt.png

Not sure if this is any good? I'll revert to XMP and do a comparasion.

bzQs9nc.png
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In my testing altering the 'other voltages' such as VDDG, VDDP etc... did absolutely nothing for stability.

The only voltage that makes my ram stable is dram voltage. Nothing else seems to have any effect.
 
opethdisciple said:
In my testing altering the 'other voltages' such as VDDG, VDDP etc... did absolutely nothing for stability.

The only voltage that makes my ram stable is dram voltage. Nothing else seems to have any effect.
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I guess that depends on the board as these voltages and the SOC were key to stopping an occasional training fail on my brothers X570 taichi.
 
Joxeon said:
Could try reducing the TRFC to bring down latency. should be able to get it to around 300.
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Going to leave as is for now.

opethdisciple said:
In my testing altering the 'other voltages' such as VDDG, VDDP etc... did absolutely nothing for stability.

The only voltage that makes my ram stable is dram voltage. Nothing else seems to have any effect.
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It made a different for me. Leaving those on AUTO wasn't passing RAMTEST for any reasonable amount of time no matter how high I set the DRAM voltage. Setting them as per my screenshot sorted that out.

Joxeon said:
I guess that depends on the board as these voltages and the SOC were key to stopping an occasional training fail on my brothers X570 taichi.
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Agreed and same board here.
 
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Hello all,

I'm currently running 2x8GB 8pack 3200 CAS14, with a 2700x, on AX370 Gaming K7.

I'm following my general, staggered 5 year plan. CPU, MB, RAM were all purchased 2 years ago. The main purchase this year will be a 'Big Navi', or Ampere.

In the mean time, I'm trying to decide about my RAM.

2700x
AX370 Gaming K7 (BIOS updated to PCIe 4.0)
2x8GB 8pack 3200MHz CAS14

I could wait, and hope the identical kit comes down from £120. Or I could buy 2x16GB on offer now, for £200. Or, I could wait and do something better.

I'm keen to hear any, and all opinions.

Thanks, and best regards.
 
Illgresi said:
Hello all,

I'm currently running 2x8GB 8pack 3200 CAS14, with a 2700x, on AX370 Gaming K7.

I'm following my general, staggered 5 year plan. CPU, MB, RAM were all purchased 2 years ago. The main purchase this year will be a 'Big Navi', or Ampere.

In the mean time, I'm trying to decide about my RAM.

2700x
AX370 Gaming K7 (BIOS updated to PCIe 4.0)
2x8GB 8pack 3200MHz CAS14

I could wait, and hope the identical kit comes down from £120. Or I could buy 2x16GB on offer now, for £200. Or, I could wait and do something better.

I'm keen to hear any, and all opinions.

Thanks, and best regards.
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Do you need more than 16gb?
 
Joxeon said:
Do you need more than 16gb?
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As I previously said, I build my rigs on a 5 years(ish) turn. When I upgraded to the 2700x I didn't need more than 16. I'm currently working at home, and the 3D design software we use is functioning ok, but more RAM won't hurt (it's not GPU intesive).

The major reason I'm thinking about more RAM is FS2020.
 
Illgresi said:
As I previously said, I build my rigs on a 5 years(ish) turn. When I upgraded to the 2700x I didn't need more than 16. I'm currently working at home, and the 3D design software we use is functioning ok, but more RAM won't hurt (it's not GPU intesive).

The major reason I'm thinking about more RAM is FS2020.
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I would go with the 2x16gb kit as it will be easier on the IMC and you could always sell your 16gb kit to offset some cost.
 
Illgresi said:
Hello all,

I'm currently running 2x8GB 8pack 3200 CAS14, with a 2700x, on AX370 Gaming K7.

I'm following my general, staggered 5 year plan. CPU, MB, RAM were all purchased 2 years ago. The main purchase this year will be a 'Big Navi', or Ampere.

In the mean time, I'm trying to decide about my RAM.

2700x
AX370 Gaming K7 (BIOS updated to PCIe 4.0)
2x8GB 8pack 3200MHz CAS14

I could wait, and hope the identical kit comes down from £120. Or I could buy 2x16GB on offer now, for £200. Or, I could wait and do something better.

I'm keen to hear any, and all opinions.

Thanks, and best regards.
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I can share my upgrade choice if it helps. I went from 2x8GB 4000MHz 8Pack Xtreem to 4x8GB 3600MHz C14 8Pack Ripped. Both sets are good but wanted to go for 32GB with easy to use fast XMP settings. Works flawlessly and I'll sell my 16GB kit and a 2x16GB kit Of Ballistix Sport. That's in an Aorus Master with a 3700X.
 
My 4 sticks require 1.47v for the ram. Whats a safe 24/7 voltage for this type of memory?

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WgizmO said:
What settings do you have in bios to make them run stable on 3600?
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Move are at the XMP settings. Just select that in the BIOS, reboot and that's it. Just remember to undo any manual settings if you have any as I forgot and wondered why it wouldn't run at C14. I already had two kits of decent RAM but this was the lazy option :)
 
Troezar said:
Move are at the XMP settings. Just select that in the BIOS, reboot and that's it. Just remember to undo any manual settings if you have any as I forgot and wondered why it wouldn't run at C14. I already had two kits of decent RAM but this was the lazy option :)
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Bought two sets of ram which you have and will see when they arrive.
 
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