Temporary car (Warning: Contains fail)

I have a lot more responsibility than I have had in the past, especially with having a house to look after, and a growing business to bring up.

The only time I really 'give it death' is on car meets, and that's the law really :p

It just seems like a minefield choosing something that isn't going to land me with massive bills all the time, a lot of BMWs seem to have components that either fail for fun, or cost the same as a small diamond to replace.
 
If you want a car that won't land you with massive bills, stay clear of used and out-of-warranty prestige branded cars.

Get yourself something run of the mill, but decent, like a Mondeo.
 
However when some over-ego'd fool comes spouting off about how I should never own something better, that's hardly on is it?

I just think it would be a shame to see you buy something nice and then ruin it with the sort of bad decisions, ridiculous bodging and 'mates' who are 'monkeys, who climb' (or actually maybe your mates only do that to other peoples cars, cant remember) jumping on it as we've come to expect over the years :p

Every car you've owned has ended up scrapped, on fire, in bits, or broken. You repeatedly ignore advice from people who know better and seem unable to spot a good car if it jumped out of a bush and ate your leg. It's amusing when its old Rovers but if it was something nice it'd be a real shame.
 
[TW]Fox;17751562 said:
I just think it would be a shame to see you buy something nice and then ruin it with the sort of bad decisions, ridiculous bodging and 'mates' who are 'monkeys, who climb' (or actually maybe your mates only do that to other peoples cars, cant remember) jumping on it as we've come to expect over the years :p

Every car you've owned has ended up scrapped, on fire, in bits, or broken. You repeatedly ignore advice from people who know better and seem unable to spot a good car if it jumped out of a bush and ate your leg. It's amusing when its old Rovers but if it was something nice it'd be a real shame.

Harsh :/
 
[TW]Fox;17751562 said:
'mates' who are 'monkeys, who climb' (or actually maybe your mates only do that to other peoples cars, cant remember) jumping on it as we've come to expect over the years :p.

Oh yeah :mad:
 
I am genuinly shocked that you paid for something in that state,

And the fact it has limb removing holes covered by tape means if you get pulled, your MOT wont be worth the paper its printed on
 
[TW]Fox;17751562 said:
I just think it would be a shame to see you buy something nice and then ruin it with the sort of bad decisions, ridiculous bodging and 'mates' who are 'monkeys, who climb' (or actually maybe your mates only do that to other peoples cars, cant remember) jumping on it as we've come to expect over the years :p

Every car you've owned has ended up scrapped, on fire, in bits, or broken. You repeatedly ignore advice from people who know better and seem unable to spot a good car if it jumped out of a bush and ate your leg. It's amusing when its old Rovers but if it was something nice it'd be a real shame.

What's it to you if he does?

It shouldn't concern you so much!
 
What's it to you if he does?

It shouldn't concern you so much!

It's an internet forum. People post thinks, other people post what they think of that.

In the grand scheme of things it makes absolutely no difference at all.

Just like every single post made here.
 
So it's typing for the sake of it?

I just can't help but feel you could be more constructive than continually attacking people about cars in which ever fashion or angle you can leaver at.
 
[TW]Fox;17751562 said:
I just think it would be a shame to see you buy something nice and then ruin it with the sort of bad decisions, ridiculous bodging and 'mates' who are 'monkeys, who climb' (or actually maybe your mates only do that to other peoples cars, cant remember) jumping on it as we've come to expect over the years :p

Every car you've owned has ended up scrapped, on fire, in bits, or broken. You repeatedly ignore advice from people who know better and seem unable to spot a good car if it jumped out of a bush and ate your leg. It's amusing when its old Rovers but if it was something nice it'd be a real shame.

Don't worry, he got a bollocking from me about that and the last thing I'd do is let him near my car with a spanner.

I sort of consider the ZS to be a 'nice car', it's relatively new, in pretty good condition and is a nice drive, although I can see immediately why you and half of Motors would disagree. The reason I have it is purely due to low running costs, cheap insurance and a little performance thrown in too, clocking in at under £600 a year for insurance with all modifications declared and legit.

As I'm sure you'll recall, the ZS has not been 'scrapped, on fire, in bits', although admittedly it does need a little attention now.

Don't really know why I got so riled up last night, and I apologise. I suppose the way you (and others) can be all friendly one minute and at people's ankles the next is quite irritating at times.

When things have settled down, I'd love to have a car to look after and cherish. I treat the ZS like a child, never really spared a penny on it, but it is and will always be a Rover 400 with 'handling by Lotus' and not much more.
 
why are we still talking about this rusty nail? I have cut out and thrown into a skip better rust patches from body panels than this shed.
 
I can't help but laugh at that statement. :p

It's a diesel Rover with a bodykit. :p If you think it's a nice car...just wait until you get in a truely nice car. :D

I have been, and can appreciate where you're coming from with the 'nice car' comments, sure the ZS drives very well, but it has zero creature comforts, and also lacks any attempt at sound deadening.

The only saving grace is that there's little to go wrong, and at 120,000 miles the car has a pretty clean sheet apart from a clutch, and normal servicing.

Thankfully it's not 'just' a diesel Rover, Lotus did a great job of getting the car into a state where bodyroll is non-existent and handling is the car's real saving grace.
 
Non existent bodyroll? Does it have active suspension then?

If there is little to go wrong why is it So broken you had to buy a new car?
 
Thankfully it's not 'just' a diesel Rover, Lotus did a great job of getting the car into a state where bodyroll is non-existent and handling is the car's real saving grace.

Really? :/

Or is it that you've just not driven anything better?
 
I have been, and can appreciate where you're coming from with the 'nice car' comments, sure the ZS drives very well, but it has zero creature comforts, and also lacks any attempt at sound deadening.

The only saving grace is that there's little to go wrong, and at 120,000 miles the car has a pretty clean sheet apart from a clutch, and normal servicing.

Thankfully it's not 'just' a diesel Rover, Lotus did a great job of getting the car into a state where bodyroll is non-existent and handling is the car's real saving grace.

It shouldn't have required Rover to get Lotus in to fix their car though (mind you I don't know if other marques use others to sort their handling etc.) in my view. They should have been able to do it themselves.

My car is by no means a nice car as far as I'm concerned, it's old and noisy etc. etc. but for a car born in the early nineties (e36 platform not mine specifically) it is very refined and drives very well. But all the Rovers I've been in and driven (including ones born in late nineties) have not been a patch on what I have now. Granted my car likely cost a lot more than the Rovers would have and in comparison it's a much better marque anyway (unless you look at the e36 compact...that's just foul).

Personally I can't see why you'd not just chop the ZS and that rust bucket in for something nicer, even if it were a Mk2/3 Mondeo...which competed with the ZS and 400 didn't it...and was a better car.

Really? :/

Or is it that you've just not driven anything better?

I think this is the case....I mean I'll be honest, I've not driven many cars or indeed the a ZS (diesel or petrol) but I can't see them being that good a car.
 
If you treated an ethiopian to a Mcdonalds he would think it was the greatest food in the world, i feel the same applys to this particularly blinkered Rover fanboy.
 
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