*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

Some people's lifts don't like the movement.
Try doing biceps with dumbbells, if the pain disappears, then switch all the exercises to dumbbell versions. There is absolutely no extra benefit of using a barbell.

Sometimes better to use a DB anyway...Just due to the 'mote control' factor as opposed to a two arm BB curl
 
My morning breakfast shake consists of;

500ml skimmed milk
2.5 scoops of Muscle Milk Peanut Butter Chocolate whey
2 scoops of Waxy Maize
2 tablespoons of Peanut Butter
2 packets of Quaker Oats (the small sachets)
a couple of icecubes

I could not even contemplate not blending the oats!!!

Waxy Maize Starch in the morning, why?

That's something you should be using striaght after a workout, it's digested and used by your body almost instantly. Have no idea why you would want to use that first thing at all.
 
I hit my goal of 100KG 5x5 squats last Friday fairly easily which is week 11 of strong lifts but now I have a terrible flue type bug which was not so bad Monday, even managed to do Mondays workout but Tuesday and today I feel like death!

So regretfully I am having a break until I feel like moving again :( Sucks to be Ill.
 
Some people's lifts don't like the movement.
Try doing biceps with dumbbells, if the pain disappears, then switch all the exercises to dumbbell versions. There is absolutely no extra benefit of using a barbell.

im using a curl bar, so ill try dumbells or a normal barbell next time and see how it goes.

does anyone know of anything which strengthens the wrists? deadlifts and shrugs have been mentioned but i dont think they will target my wrists enough.
 
im using a curl bar, so ill try dumbells or a normal barbell next time and see how it goes.

does anyone know of anything which strengthens the wrists? deadlifts and shrugs have been mentioned but i dont think they will target my wrists enough.

http://www.google.co.uk/url?url=htt...sg=AFQjCNHzYietD1DWFBt9DnKuAbDNwmB7MA&cad=rja

?

Certainly targets grip, which inturn uses the wrist a bit when tencing...but ask some more of the 'vet' members here really

Oh and not specifically that model either :p
 
Having your wrist support something heavy will make it stronger, so if you have unusually weak joints that become the limiting factor in a lift, i.e. the pain kicks in before your muscles get tired, you can directly work on that. The best idea I can think of is to go in a power rack on a flat bench, set the safety bars high enough so you only have 1-2 inches of motion and just bench press up a heavy barbell, heavier than you could bench with full range of motion. Hold it for a few seconds, then rack it. Rinse and repeat. If you can happily hold up 90kg on a bench press, you can probably do 30-40kg more in the rack, which will strengthen the joints.

Is that what you're after? Stronger wrist joints? Or do you actually mean you want thicker wrists/forearms? You can get thicker forearms, but your wrist is basically just bone, tendons and ligaments - not muscle - and therefore it is difficult to make it bigger. You can make the joint stronger and more stable, but if you want to put an inch on your wrist you'll need to put several on your forearm to do that
 
Having your wrist support something heavy will make it stronger, so if you have unusually weak joints that become the limiting factor in a lift, i.e. the pain kicks in before your muscles get tired, you can directly work on that. The best idea I can think of is to go in a power rack on a flat bench, set the safety bars high enough so you only have 1-2 inches of motion and just bench press up a heavy barbell, heavier than you could bench with full range of motion. Hold it for a few seconds, then rack it. Rinse and repeat. If you can happily hold up 90kg on a bench press, you can probably do 30-40kg more in the rack, which will strengthen the joints.

Is that what you're after? Stronger wrist joints? Or do you actually mean you want thicker wrists/forearms? You can get thicker forearms, but your wrist is basically just bone, tendons and ligaments - not muscle - and therefore it is difficult to make it bigger. You can make the joint stronger and more stable, but if you want to put an inch on your wrist you'll need to put several on your forearm to do that

i just want the pain to stop when doing preacher curls, i'll have a look at different methods and see what helps. im going to try barbell and dumbells next time to see if they help.
 
Good session today.

Squats: 110kg 5, 115kg 5, 5, 5, 5
Barbell Bench Press: 60kg 5x5
Barbell Calf Raise (2 feet): 90kg 5x8
Overhead Press: 32.5kg 5x5
Dips: 3 x to fail

I'm pretty much back to where I was before I went away for 5 weeks which is nice. Plus my deadlifts are slowly catching up with my squats which I think is down to improved technique (glute activation).
 
i just want the pain to stop when doing preacher curls, i'll have a look at different methods and see what helps. im going to try barbell and dumbells next time to see if they help.

Maybe focus on the way you're twisting your wrists?

For me, skull crushers cause my elbows a lot of pain, but today i discovered that if i focus hard on twisting my fists clockwise as if I was trying to bend the bar, the pain isn't there at all.

It may be that if you are trying to twist your fists anti-/clockwise when you do curls, actively focusing on twisting them the other way may help.
 
Decided enough ******* around is enough! Having not really been on any particular routine and having slackened off with both my intensity and volume it's time for another kick up the backside!

Throwing myself back in at the deep end with some GVT. Well more 'modified' GVT as seen here: (I'll refer to it as M-GVT)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...nid=961B6FA01B3598593DA24E73F56C53ED-hf.hydra

I found with regular GVT that the repetative high volume at the same joint angles left my tendons very sore! Now I'll also be able to squat properly and take advantage of some decent hamstring exercises.

Looking foward to not having to superset compounds, it should still be an effective endurance/mass building programme but less cardiovascularly taxing and will also allow maximal focus on training each group in succesion as opposed to them both at the same time.

My form & mind muscle connection is also signifcantly better than it was the last time so this will all help. My diet is quite good at the moment too. It's a recommended 4-6 week programme but i'll be playing it by ear and carry on for longer if results are still good. It also looks to be a lot less boring than regular GVT, which was soul destroyingly boring.

Carb control will still be on the cards as always to keep my water rentention and general carb bloat to a minimum but I may find that my appetite and exhaustion sees this out the window.

Either way I'm looking foward to it :)
 
Decided enough ******* around is enough! Having not really been on any particular routine and having slackened off with both my intensity and volume it's time for another kick up the backside!

Throwing myself back in at the deep end with some GVT. Well more 'modified' GVT as seen here: (I'll refer to it as M-GVT)

http://www.t-nation.com/free_online...nid=961B6FA01B3598593DA24E73F56C53ED-hf.hydra

I found with regular GVT that the repetative high volume at the same joint angles left my tendons very sore! Now I'll also be able to squat properly and take advantage of some decent hamstring exercises.

Looking foward to not having to superset compounds, it should still be an effective endurance/mass building programme but less cardiovascularly taxing and will also allow maximal focus on training each group in succesion as opposed to them both at the same time.

My form & mind muscle connection is also signifcantly better than it was the last time so this will all help. My diet is quite good at the moment too. It's a recommended 4-6 week programme but i'll be playing it by ear and carry on for longer if results are still good. It also looks to be a lot less boring than regular GVT, which was soul destroyingly boring.

Carb control will still be on the cards as always to keep my water rentention and general carb bloat to a minimum but I may find that my appetite and exhaustion sees this out the window.

Either way I'm looking foward to it :)

:) Hope it goes well!!!

I'll look at the link shortly, see what it entails :)

Did Deadlifts last night in the garage, another PB or me!

DL's: 40kg x 6 - Happy with that, definately felt it...Might not do it again for alittle while as my abs felt rather saw later that evening which was a bit of a concern.

So i'll stick at 30/35kg to improve form more.

Also threw some weighted caf raises for the hell of it....

quick question regarding calf raises...Where do people locate the weight usually when performing this sort of thing?
 
:) Hope it goes well!!!

I'll look at the link shortly, see what it entails :)

Did Deadlifts last night in the garage, another PB or me!

DL's: 40kg x 6 - Happy with that, definately felt it...Might not do it again for alittle while as my abs felt rather saw later that evening which was a bit of a concern.

So i'll stick at 30/35kg to improve form more.

Also threw some weighted caf raises for the hell of it....

quick question regarding calf raises...Where do people locate the weight usually when performing this sort of thing?

It's more the tempo, volume and intensity that makes all types of GVT so succesfull. Deffinatley a more friendly looking version than the basic GVT!

Gongrats on the deadlifts!

For calf raises if I do them I'll normally do donkey calf raises as I favour these over standing. But generally i'd put the weight in the same place as I would for squats. Shoulder blades back and together, rear delts popped and the bar resting on the 'shelf' as such.
 
It's more the tempo, volume and intensity that makes all types of GVT so succesfull. Deffinatley a more friendly looking version than the basic GVT!

Gongrats on the deadlifts!

For calf raises if I do them I'll normally do donkey calf raises as I favour these over standing. But generally i'd put the weight in the same place as I would for squats. Shoulder blades back and together, rear delts popped and the bar resting on the 'shelf' as such.

Thanks for the praise :) I'm happy so far anyway! Before the 40kg I was doing 30kg x 10 and 35kg x 8....So probably ould have done more if I didn't ware out so quickly prior :p

Okay, i'll look at donkey calf raises...So do you do double calf raises? As in both legs at the same time?
 
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Okay, i'll look at donkey calf raises...So do you do double calf raises? As in both legs at the same time?

You can do, if you have the proper machine.

I've only ever done them one leg at a time, this way you don't even really need any added weight or the specific machine. I normally use the step of the seated calf raise machine, though any other step/box/pile of plates will do fine, though you want something to hold on to, preferably that you can lean back while doing so. The ab bench/boards are quite good for this as you have the bar sticking vertically up that you can hold on, then just pop that end onto a high box and then work off the box.

What I do is bend fowards and lean back, with the other leg out as far behind me as possible/comfortable so as to increase the leaver and place more weight over my ankle than infront of it and on what I'm leaning on. Keep you back straight( and the leg of the calf you're trying to work) to that of a deadlift or SLDL. You can then pull yourself in to help cheat rep as you fatigue. Looks a bit wierd but works well. Hard to explain. Few pages or so back in the bodybuilder picture thread there's some leg shots of mine with my TP in the background doing them.

Tbh if you just keep your legs straight and bend foward and then try and push up on your toes you'll see how different it is! Feels like a much more intense contraction.
 
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