*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

I was talking to my trainer about a video someone posted on here about an exerise called monk deadlift. He said its a pretty good exercise and after my program ends (in about 4 weeks) hes gonna put in on my next program for 2 weeks and then finish the year with going back to normal deadlifts.
Hes convinced that i can get my 1xPB Deadlift from 145kg to 165kg just before xmas, i really hope i can.

Edit: while im here ive seen people in my gym using straps and belts, is that something i should use. I asked someone why you use them and he said "once you get to a certain weight you cant increase your weights without using them". Im no expert but is that right do all you guys use them. I got it in my head that i think its cheating and will not use them, or am i wrong?
 
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Chaps talking ******. A belt is a band aid for a weak core and straps are also a band aid for a weak grip.

I've used straps as without it my deadlift PB would be 40-50KG lower however I've never used a belt. People use them because they thing 'You can get injured if you don't wear one'. A belt makes your core weaker as it's never utilised and it's poor form/technique that causes injury not not wearing a belt.

Edit: My bad.
 
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Just echoing what these guys are saying. I always see people regularly coming up to me and check this out... they say "Hey, you should use a belt when you're lifting that kind of weight, it's not healthy for your weight."

Thanks, I'll bear that in mind :rolleyes:
 
BennyC said:
Chaps talking ******. A belt is a band aid for a weak core and straps are also a band aid for a weak grip.

I've used straps as without it my deadlift PB would be 40-50KG lower however I've never used a belt. People use them because they thing 'You can get injured if you don't wear one'. A belt makes your core weaker as it's never utilised and it's poor form/technique that causes injury not not wearing a belt.

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Freefaller said:
Agreed. Belts just cover a problem. Don't rely on them.
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Ninja replys cheers.
I knew the answer already that there basically cheating and not good to use all the time. But didnt realise that it could make you weaker. Maybe i should let the guy know....he looks like the type who would take advice:p
 
It does give a false sense of security and it's only dangerous for those that lift more than they can handle. This goes to anyone with or without a belt.

I only tend to give my opinion if I'm asked, no point sparking pointless debates with people who clearly don't know much.
 
In a way it makes sense....Get to a certain weight...cant lift it any more because the 'lower back' gives way...Wearing a belt would strengthen said lower back thus making the lift easier :D

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I'm sad so sad. I was laughed at in the gym today.

It's my light week aka arm rehab week, so I only do 50-60% of my max weight.

I was doing 25kg skull crusher when these two bicep boys where snickering behind me since I'm soo small and can't do much.

So they go and do some BW dips all while snickering in my direction and talking just loud enough so I can hear them. :(

Then I did what Skull said I should do. I just staired at them, got my dipping belt grabbed 3 10kg plates and proceeded to dip 10 reps, while staring at them. :D

Haha, I've never seen someone's face drop like that before.

Although I found it impossible to not break eye contact.

Didn't seem to have any problems with the elbow though, but it was worth it to shut them buggers up.
People like that annoy the hell out of me so much, those high and mighty types that can't even do a proper pullup and don't know what a squat or deadlift even look like. GRRR :mad:
 
N19h7m4r3 said:
Then I did what Skull said I should do. I just staired at them, got my dipping belt grabbed 3 10kg plates and proceeded to dip 10 reps, while staring at them. :D
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Hahahahaha, that's fantastic! And in this instance.. cool story bro!! :D

You're dipping 30KG with an injury? Don't tempt me you smug, smug thing :mad:
 
Sure it felt good but you have to question whether risk injury to put someone in their place is worth it. Every once in a blue moon is fine I imagine but making a regular habbit of it doesn't sound like a good idea!
 
Delvis said:
Hah, nice one Nightmare :)

Pretty sad why people do that to be honest...got to start somewhere =/ (Not aimed at you, but i mean like new people in the gym etc etc)
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I actually like it when new people start. Everyone has to start somewhere, even if it's with 2kg dumbbells for benching. It's better than someone just sitting on their bum infront of a TV. :)

DarkShadow said:
Hahahahaha, that's fantastic! And in this instance.. cool story bro!! :D

You're dipping 30KG with an injury? Don't tempt me you smug, smug thing :mad:
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BennyC said:
Sure it felt good but you have to question whether risk injury to put someone in their place is worth it. Every once in a blue moon is fine I imagine but making a regular habbit of it doesn't sound like a good idea!
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Haha yeah, I think I was pushing it quite a bit ( should have been doing 15kg for the light week). Felt fine at the time, fast forward to now. I've got a bit of a pinching/stabbing feeling in my arm. :(

Over did it quite a bit. Don't worry though Benny, I'm not going to bother again until I'm fully healed.

Ahwell, it should be fine for some Barbbell complexes tomorrow. :D
 
Hi hi

Thought I would post a few questions in here rather than creating a new thread, hopefully people will read and answer. :p

1) Having been going to the gym for around 10 months now, i've noticed my shoulders seem to "sag"/"sit low" when relaxed stood up. It is as if my shoulders slope steeply down rather than being more horizontal. Anything I can do to bring them up? I do military press with a barbell and on the resistance machine about once a week with around 25kg+bar and 40kg respectively. Any suggestions?

2) I'm going to go for a proper winter bulk until about March next year before I cut and look "ripped" for summer. Or at least that is the plan. I weighed myself today at 80.2kg (6ft 2"). What do you think would be a good weight to aim for in 6 months time? Or is that too long a bulk?

Also, what should I be gaining on say a 2 week basis, I can weigh myself once every 2 weeks.

I'm going to go for a clean(er) bulk rather than takeaways and what not, so lots of chicken, broccoli, peanut butter, oats, etc will be going in.

Thanks all.
 
kinobestew123 said:
Also, what should I be gaining on say a 2 week basis, I can weigh myself once every 2 weeks.
I'm going to go for a clean(er) bulk rather than takeaways and what not, so lots of chicken, broccoli, peanut butter, oats, etc will be going in.
Thanks all.
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About 1-2pounds maximum every 2 weeks. Keeping it clean is the best idea especially if you're cutting later. Means less time cutting and less muscle loss. You may gain weight quicker at the start but 2pounds should be the max every two weeks.

BennyC said:
Sure it felt good but you have to question whether risk injury to put someone in their place is worth it.
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Indeed. I often see myself lifting less than others in the gym, eg doing a dropset of 8kg>6kg>4kg hammer curls at the end of a pull session may look like small weights to other people but I leave my ego at the door.

30kg dips for 10 reps is sweet though I'm going to do some tommorow and will be lucky to get bw+15 for 5 :o.
 
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I got in and the smith machine was taken with guys who said they had 6 sets left each :(

Not having done shoulders last week, hit up some shoulder work(kinda sucky considering i did chest yday..);

12/10/8

Press
Front/Lateral raises
Rear Flys
Upright rows
Shrugs (squat rack was taken and i'd normally to them there, had to put 100kg on a bar, and deadlift it and keep it up there and shrug it that way! arf!!)
 
The Craig said:
but I leave my ego at the door.
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This! I could be next to a guy doing double the weight im doing, but it doesn't and shouldn't phase a person, everyone trains for their own reasons, and everyone training begins somewhere

If i see a lad struggling with a fairly light weight(or any weight for that matter), i'll always go and ask if he wants a spot and help him push himself to the max!!

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The Craig said:
About 1-2pounds maximum every 2 weeks. Keeping it clean is the best idea especially if you're cutting later. Means less time cutting and less muscle loss. You may gain weight quicker at the start but 2pounds should be the max every two weeks.



Indeed. I often see myself lifting less than others in the gym, eg doing a dropset of 8kg>6kg>4kg hammer curls at the end of a pull session may look like small weights to other people but I leave my ego at the door.

30kg dips for 10 reps is sweet though I'm going to do some tommorow and will be lucky to get bw+15 for 5 :o.
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1-2 lbs every 2 weeks? of muscle? naturally?
 
Think he means 1-2lbs overall from food intake, fat gain and muscle growth. It does seem almost impossible but he did say maximum!

Anything from 10-14lbs per year if you eat well and train hard is more realistic naturally. However if you're just starting out you should be able to pile some on pritty quick with your n00b gains.
 
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