*** The 2010 Gym Rats Thread ***

hurfdurf said:
My pre-sup consists of a high carb meal like full wheat pasta an hour before leaving and an apple in the car on the way to the gym, what are you doing?

(please dont say N0-Xplode!)
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Erm... I think I'm *slightly* more knowledgeable than that.... :/

Furthermore, this is only for this program, normally I just have a cup of coffee and a banana which is all I need as my diet throughout the day keeps me well satiated and just need that little kick. I've discussed my pre/post work out stack in the supplements thread.


Mansize - any time mate. :)
 
Ordered some protein and carbs and creatine from MP last night, and Tesco shopping coming tonight.

Last time I ordered from MP was April 2008 :eek: I've been out of the gym loop for way too long!

Starting again hardcore from tomorrow, cant wait :D although not looking forward to 1st session, i know im gona feel weak as ****!
 
Freefaller said:
Erm... I think I'm *slightly* more knowledgeable than that.... :/

Furthermore, this is only for this program, normally I just have a cup of coffee and a banana which is all I need as my diet throughout the day keeps me well satiated and just need that little kick. I've discussed my pre/post work out stack in the supplements thread.
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Sorry, I post very sporadically in the sports arena so I don't know what level people are at when it comes to things. I had a look through the supplements thread and haven't been able to find your plan, I checked the last 2 pages and while I saw you mentioned the change up to supplements to help with your new work out I didn't see the details, got a link?
 
A2Z said:
Ordered some protein and carbs and creatine from MP last night, and Tesco shopping coming tonight.

Last time I ordered from MP was April 2008 :eek: I've been out of the gym loop for way too long!

Starting again hardcore from tomorrow, cant wait :D although not looking forward to 1st session, i know im gona feel weak as ****!
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It'll come back to you matey! :cool: :D

Welcome back to the fold. :)
 
hurfdurf said:
Sorry, I post very sporadically in the sports arena so I don't know what level people are at when it comes to things. I had a look through the supplements thread and haven't been able to find your plan, I checked the last 2 pages and while I saw you mentioned the change up to supplements to help with your new work out I didn't see the details, got a link?
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http://forums.overclockers.co.uk/showpost.php?p=15703872&postcount=182

I'm by no means an "expert" but I feel I know more than the average joe, and certainly enough about how the body works, hormones, nutrition, and general nutrient synthesis within our bodies to be able to enhance it's effect or at least add some synergy with the supplementation I shall be taking. I've been at this for several years, and feel relatively well read on this topic. I'm happy to be challenged though - if you disagree with any of my points or think I'm talking rubbish ( I should request that you don't state it in such a manner though!) by all means tell me. :)

These supps will add no more than maybe 5% at best for my performance, if that. Over 95% of the achievements that people will make is through an improved diet, training regime, sleep and lifestyle change. The last few bits are just a bonus.

We all live busy lives work 50-60hrs+ a week, our bodies aren't designed for such things, as such mimicing a more rounded approach to our diets and giving them what they need can help - but only if you do it right.

I can assure than 90% of people who traing at my gym would receive little benefit from supplementation. Not because they (the supps) don't do anything, they do, but only if you use them properly. 90% of people in my gym, their routines haven't changed for years, the weights lifted has hardly changed. Ergo, they are doing something wrong. End of. They don't have the knowledge. I know it sounds a little arrogant of me, but I am a testament of my own advice and methodology and knowledge. Sure I'm not as good as I want to be, but unfortunately I haven't got time to dedicate myself further (unless I won the lottery of course! :D).

Anyway I'm going off track. AGVT is very taxing on the body, and even with my good diet, and focused training ethos (and I am extremely dedicated) I'm happy to accept that it's not perfect - the stack I have devised should help enhance, protein synthesis, maximise recovery, boost IGF-1 and other anabolic hormones, improve insulin response, and minimise cortisol when not needed. AGVT and GVT and other high volume programs are generally designed for people who dabble in the dark arts. That doesn't mean to say that natural trainers cannot gain from it - they can, but they have to step it up, and give themselves the best chance of development. :)
 
Freefaller said:
AGVT and GVT and other high volume programs are generally designed for people who dabble in the dark arts. That doesn't mean to say that natural trainers cannot gain from it - they can, but they have to step it up, and give themselves the best chance of development. :)
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I've noticed talk of such dark arts are frowned upon, as a mod/admin (sorry, dont know what Don is the equivalent to) can you tell me what is and isn't allowed to be discussed.

Most sports forums allow you to talk about them openly but never ask where or how you can get them. I assume on this one you cant talk about specifics because of the "no medical advice rule", but is one allowed to mention steroids in general?
 
No. Any steroid/ hormone/ anything you can't buy in a shop you can't talk about :) You can mention if you are natural or not, but that's where it ends.
 
Indeed. We're not a dedicated sports/bodybuilding forum, as I'm sure you know we're predominantly an IT based forum with lifestyle interests bolted on - which is fantastic IMO to have this diversity.

We've had a few discussions about gear but in terms of topical news articles, i.e. atheletes using them, gym guys using them. That's fine as it's not discussing it's use, how to use them what to do with them etc. Most of us can easily find out information by going to dedicated sports forums where discussion on their use is fine. It's a legality issue - as I'm sure you know you're not allowed to buy/sell them - ergo, it's illegal and as such we don't want it associated with the forums. Remember the forums are based on a reputable buisness as it's platform - Spie would not allow anything that could lead to negative publicity/light on his business. Whilst the forums are independent in some aspects, they are very much linked to the business.

It's just sensible to leave a clear cut rule. Furthermore, as you say, it falls very much under the medical thread/advice rule. Such substances are not like supplements you can buy in the shops, they are hormones and can and do affect your body on a cellular level, and can be potentially dangerous to someone who is ignorant of their use.

Whilst I don't really fancy having a debate about the rules (as they are clear cut) I just wanted to explain the reasons why I and the rest of the mod team are not comfortable with talk of such things. There are dozens of forums dedicated to bodybuilding/weight training who openly discuss their usage and how to use them etc... If you want to discuss it further, please take it to email. :)
 
I found a good app for the iphone called myfitnesspal - it's free and seems pretty good - you can also add your own foods (i.e. your own recipies, and or shakes etc...) Not bad little app considering it's free.
 
I need to work my core to iron out an imbalance caused from my knee injury.

Any recommended exercises? I've got particular hip exercises from my physio but recommendations are appreciated for general core specific work
 
For the record Strongman around the end of March or begining of April suits me perfectly, however it may not others!

Finally picked up my dipping belt today. After the supplier sent 3 regular lifting belts instead of a dipping belt to the chap I get my supps from. (half price might add for the delay :D)

I'd been using a York one that belongs to the gym and the chain was substancially longer than the one I'd just got so any large diameter plates were going to be wedged into my gooch.

So off to B&Q I pop and it's now got chain rated to 204KG's:eek: not that I would ever get anywhere near even half that, nor would the stiching on the belt cope!
 
Yeah I need a new chunkier chain. I'm currently repping out on 35Kg and it's already getting a little tight on the chain - I use 2x10kg + 1x15kg plate. The stitching will take it fine - besides belts are pretty cheap.

It's the best bit of kit I've ever bought myself. :cool:

My squats are back on form, 3x10 reps below parallel at 140Kg (not quite ATG) comfortably. :cool: I reckon I've got a 190kg in the tank for 1.. hope to get 200kg by may.
 
Yeah was only £6 for the meter and you can get quick release clips for a couple of £. Can also cut the old chain off while you're in B&Q too!

Nice squatting. Mines progressing, slowly though I am coming down in weight. I think I may have exhausted the effectiveness of 5x5 either that or low carbing/ I just don't in general have the endurance to crank 5 heavy reps out. So seeing how it goes next session, the following one I may addopt a 3 x 10 for back squats.

I really miss high volume leg work. I haven't had a reasonable leg pump in weeks! :(
 
BennyC said:
Nice squatting. Mines progressing, slowly though I am coming down in weight. I think I may have exhausted the effectiveness of 5x5 either that or low carbing/ I just don't in general have the endurance to crank 5 heavy reps out. So seeing how it goes next session, the following one I may addopt a 3 x 10 for back squats.
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I heard 5 a side once a week gives a well good leg workout, dont even need to train legs after either!
 
Strongman....well we are trying to start its just weather dependent ATM. We wanted to get out last weekend but it chucked it down so didn't bother.

End of March / start of April will be fine, but we can try and get a session in before then as well if people are up for it :D
 
PAz said:
End of March / start of April will be fine, but we can try and get a session in before then as well if people are up for it :D
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Good for me :)

I'm back from Uni on the 26th and heading back on the 12th of April. I'll have just finished my cut so might not be quite upto standard but deffers up for some strongman style punishment!
 
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