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Skillmister · 28 Aug 2011 at 00:45

Some tuna, some eggs, some whey, some different fish?

icecold · 28 Aug 2011 at 01:02

LiE said:
Another good deadlift session.

170kg x 5 followed by 190kg x 3

That's me done with strength for a while. Going to focus on mass for my honeymoon in 3 weeks.

Well done mate, probably good for well over 200kg grip-wise

SkScotchegg said:
*sniiiiiiiiiiiiiiip*
Any ideas?

Thanks in advance.

What's wrong with whey? I have no idea if that's not ok for a pesceterian, but I assume dairy is ok if you were considering cottage cheese.

SkScotchegg · 28 Aug 2011 at 01:17

icecold said:
Well done mate, probably good for well over 200kg grip-wise

What's wrong with whey? I have no idea if that's not ok for a pesceterian, but I assume dairy is ok if you were considering cottage cheese.

Whey is fine but I already have two shakes a day and didnt want to really make it 4 shakes because its better to eat fresh solid foods.

SkScotchegg · 28 Aug 2011 at 01:55

Ultra_Extreme said:
please present me with one shred of scientific evidence that shows any harm has ever come to a human as a result of eating 4 or 5 or even 28 cans of tuna....

I thought it was common knowledge about mercury in fish, there's a lot of scientific studies been done on fish all around the world and they have published the measurements of the mercury levels for quite a few species of fish and the information is useful because mercury isn't secreted through the human body out of your skin and in later life a build up of mercury in your body and brain could result in some serious diseases which I imagine most of us would wish to avoid.

Taken from wiki:

Mercury poisoning (also known as hydrargyria or mercurialism) is a disease caused by exposure to mercury or its compounds. Mercury (chemical symbol Hg) is a heavy metal occurring in several forms, all of which can produce toxic effects in high enough doses. Its zero oxidation state Hg0 exists as vapor or as liquid metal, its mercurous state Hg+ exists as inorganic salts, and its mercuric state Hg2+ may form either inorganic salts or organomercury compounds; the three groups vary in effects. Toxic effects include damage to the brain, kidney, and lungs.[1] Mercury poisoning can result in several diseases, including acrodynia (pink disease)[2], Hunter-Russell syndrome, and Minamata disease.[3]
Symptoms typically include sensory impairment (vision, hearing, speech), disturbed sensation and a lack of coordination. The type and degree of symptoms exhibited depend upon the individual toxin, the dose, and the method and duration of exposure.

Full page here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mercury_poisoning

But anyways, lets not get into an argument about mercury lol...at the end of the day though am sure nobody wants a build of mercury in their body? Why would you? We all want to live a long healthy life and unfortunately the oceans which we've all come to depend on have been polluted and many species of fish are now classed as dangerous to eat due to high toxicity of many different chemicals.

On a side note, I had the best chest/biceps workout I've had in a long time today.

Buckster · 28 Aug 2011 at 08:10

this mornings smoothie

it makes 2pints and in it:

drink 2 full glasses of this and I'm full until my banana at 11 before my gym session at 12.30

before I waseating lots of toast/pita breads for breakfast

500ml Water
200ml Pink Grapefruit fresh juice
70ml of Pomegrenate Juice (no added sugar stuff - expensive but nice)
1 Banana
4 large spoons of Organic Rolled Oats
30 frozen blueberries
1 1/2 scoops of Whey

tastes LOVELY

Dark_Angel · 28 Aug 2011 at 09:37

I'm not 100 percent, BUT I'm sure I read somewhere that the mercury people are worried about in fish isn't a big deal, as it's actually perfectly safe. I'm pretty sure that was either in an issue of FLEX or muscle magazine. I can try and find the snippet if you'd like?

Can't make any promises though, I've quite a few magazines, but fairly certain it's a few months old.

MoNkeE · 28 Aug 2011 at 09:38

One thing that stopped me from making batches of protein shakes for the course of a week, was the inability to know how evenly distributed the whey is. Unless someone can tell me better, if you make a big batch with 60g of proteijnin it, making 2 pints of smoothie in total, it's entirely possible that one could have 20g of protein, whilst the other could have 40g. Especially if the liquid that's absorbed the whey sinks to the bottom? Could easily mess up your macros, which is why I'd only add the whey once pouring it in to a glass!

MoNkeE · 28 Aug 2011 at 09:39

@lolSkotchegg:
Why are you asking the question if you've provided us with a list of fish you can replace it with? Just buy mackerel............?

Dark_Angel · 28 Aug 2011 at 09:42

MoNkeE said:
One thing that stopped me from making batches of protein shakes for the course of a week, was the inability to know how evenly distributed the whey is. Unless someone can tell me better, if you make a big batch with 60g of proteijnin it, making 2 pints of smoothie in total, it's entirely possible that one could have 20g of protein, whilst the other could have 40g. Especially if the liquid that's absorbed the whey sinks to the bottom? Could easily mess up your macros, which is why I'd only add the whey once pouring it in to a glass!

I'm going with the "water in a shaker, add scoop, shake, profit!" method

GarethSouthgate · 28 Aug 2011 at 10:24

MoNkeE said:
@lolSkotchegg:
Why are you asking the question if you've provided us with a list of fish you can replace it with? Just buy mackerel............?

Personally I can't think of anything worse than eating the same meat/fish all of the time so I just mix it up, cod, tuna, mackerel, plaice.

MoNkeE said:
One thing that stopped me from making batches of protein shakes for the course of a week, was the inability to know how evenly distributed the whey is. Unless someone can tell me better, if you make a big batch with 60g of proteijnin it, making 2 pints of smoothie in total, it's entirely possible that one could have 20g of protein, whilst the other could have 40g. Especially if the liquid that's absorbed the whey sinks to the bottom? Could easily mess up your macros, which is why I'd only add the whey once pouring it in to a glass!

Why not make the batch without whey then just add a scoop before you drink it?

Dark_Angel · 28 Aug 2011 at 11:01

mercury in fish

From Maximum Fitness Magazine, US edition. March/April 2011 edition.

"The mercury in fish may not be as big of a concern as you might think. "People need to understand that the presence of mercury in and of itself isn't necessarily toxic," says Bill Lands, a nutritional biochemist and author of Fish, Omega-3 and human health (AOCs, 2005). "knowing that mercury is toxic is an oversimplication of reality," he says. "Mercury in the context of adequate selenium doesn't have the toxic consequences."

As long as you have more selenium in your body than mercury, it negates the toxic effects. "One of the joys of seafood is that it tends to have much more selenium than mercury," says Lands. In fact, a four-ounce serving of tuna has 76 percent of the daily recommended value of selenium."

Delvis · 28 Aug 2011 at 11:22

Mercy in fish?

Dark_Angel · 28 Aug 2011 at 11:37

Delvis said:
Mercy in fish?

trying to type from a mag isn't easy!!! :mad:

oddjob62 · 28 Aug 2011 at 11:59

Delvis said:
Mercy in fish?

Well i've never known a fish to hold a grudge

Steedie · 28 Aug 2011 at 12:33

I'm eating tuna as we speak, feels good man.......oh wait.........someone call 999! I'm having a hhhhhnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnnggg

SkScotchegg · 28 Aug 2011 at 14:04

MoNkeE said:
@lolSkotchegg:
Why are you asking the question if you've provided us with a list of fish you can replace it with? Just buy mackerel............?

Hey, look, I came on to this thread because my diet has to change because there's no more sardines been sold in my city and so I need to find a new protein source, I was simply looking for suggestions, thats all...I wasnt coming on to this forum looking for an argument, I just asked a question, thats it, just a question, but once again, you guys have been difficult with me every step of the way.

I think I've had like 10 replies and not a single shred of help...thanks for that, really amazing there guys, wicked! You must be really proud of your so called gym ratz thread where you "help people" with "advice", I'm not even sure I expected anything different to be honest because its been this way for years.

GarethSouthgate · 28 Aug 2011 at 14:08

You have had some advice:

Skillmister said:
Some tuna, some eggs, some whey, some different fish?

What else can people say?

Turkey, lentils and beans are all high in protein.

Skull · 28 Aug 2011 at 14:17

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High-protein_diet

Messiah Khan · 28 Aug 2011 at 14:37

sigma said:
You have had some advice:

What else can people say?

Turkey, lentils and beans are all high in protein.

Turkey breast steaks are my cheap protein of choice. 500g Turkey baked with 500g sliced sweet potato, I have it most lunch times.

Delvis · 28 Aug 2011 at 14:46

SkScotchegg said:
Hey, look, I came on to this thread because my diet has to change because there's no more sardines been sold in my city and so I need to find a new protein source, I was simply looking for suggestions, thats all...I wasnt coming on to this forum looking for an argument, I just asked a question, thats it, just a question, but once again, you guys have been difficult with me every step of the way.

I think I've had like 10 replies and not a single shred of help...thanks for that, really amazing there guys, wicked! You must be really proud of your so called gym ratz thread where you "help people" with "advice", I'm not even sure I expected anything different to be honest because its been this way for years.

Not really, you have given yourself a list of fish, infact that list is very helpful for myself as i've never seen it before and it gives you a nice view of what is available.

Problem is, no one knows what shops sell you're neck of the woods so to speak, you might be able to get a nice deal from a local shop as opposed to a supermarket chain

Anyway, there are a few sources / tips on the few posts above mine now.

Any reason you are wanting fish? Or is it purely to have something different other than chicken?

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