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Delvis · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:13

Hi guys, can anyone link to the best Inc. DB press and Flat DB Fly vids they know of?

Going to look around, just want to get some further input on them really

LiE · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:17

This video looks good, pretty much how I rock including the 50s :cool:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt2u9zTrOu8&feature=related

icecold · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:21

Anything by Scott Herman.

Not serious.

Delvis · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:25

LiE said:
This video looks good, pretty much how I rock including the 50s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pt2u9zTrOu8&feature=related

Thanks matey

icecold said:
Anything by Scott Herman.

Not serious.

You almost got a slap then

icecold · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:48

Last nights session was good. Still trying to nail form, it's getting there. Squat felt really good and got them all done quite quickly, bench felt fine and deads were a little sloppy because I was tired by the time I got to them. Grip was fine though.

Squats 7x5x140
Bench 7x6x85
Deads 7x5x157.5

Video!

I like the squat, although I might need to go a little lower to be completely safe. It could just be the angle though as it's seemed fine before. Speed is decent considering it was the fifth set. Didn't think to get a video of my bench. Deadlift is from set 6, so I'm pretty tired. Speed is nice, hips rise too early on the second rep. If I'd slowed down a bit between reps it probably would have been fine, but as I said I was tired so rushing slightly. Oh, and if you're wondering why I'm flicking my knees out between reps I'm just making some adjustments due to my undershorts

Skillmister · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:50

Nice lifts. Thats a crap ton of volume

LiE · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:52

I don't think there is much room for going low on low bar squat.

Delvis · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:55

I must say, I never drop the weight

But then again I'm lifting not even half of that

tom_e · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:56

I think dropping the weight like that would be a quick way for me to be banned in my gym

SMed · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:58

Agreed on the volume - now feast.

SMed · 9 Feb 2012 at 16:58

Yeah, I've never dropped the weight like that, but who knows after a session like that.

icecold · 9 Feb 2012 at 17:07

It's a habit I've gotten into from using proper bumper plates, probably shouldn't do it really. The gym is in a basement though so it's not going to damage anything, and if the plates brake they just need better plates!

I also don't like lowering to a deficit, slight as it is in this situation (just under 2cm irrc).

oli collett · 9 Feb 2012 at 18:13

icecold said:
Last nights session was good. Still trying to nail form, it's getting there. Squat felt really good and got them all done quite quickly, bench felt fine and deads were a little sloppy because I was tired by the time I got to them. Grip was fine though.

Squats 7x5x140
Bench 7x6x85
Deads 7x5x157.5

<snip>

haha, I have a really similar set of movements before doing a deadlift.

Out of interest, lowering the bar like that rapidly, is that safe? I tend to go down slowly but I wonder if that's the cause of some of my problems in my lower back. I heard someone in the gym the other day talking about how you should just "let the bar go" but that kinda scares me!

Delvis · 9 Feb 2012 at 18:18

I'd only say drop it if you're allowed to drop it, some places don't like it at all

oli collett · 9 Feb 2012 at 18:27

Delvis said:
I'd only say drop it if you're allowed to drop it, some places don't like it at all

I don't mean a hard drop, but I just wondered if i was going down too slowly

Delvis · 9 Feb 2012 at 18:29

Possibly buddy, depends on the weight and how you are doing it really.

I tend to RDL it to my knees then lower/drop it...Hard to explain

oli collett · 9 Feb 2012 at 18:43

Delvis said:
Possibly buddy, depends on the weight and how you are doing it really.

I tend to RDL it to my knees then lower/drop it...Hard to explain

Yeah that's what I do - I dunno, something's not right that's for sure. I actually notice it more with lower weights rather than heavier ones too :confused:

SMed · 9 Feb 2012 at 18:45

I do a controlled "drop". Hands stay on the bar at all times. Initially down at a regular pace, then let it accelerate on the way down. Literally letting go and dropping the bar will get you disqualified in a comp.

icecold · 9 Feb 2012 at 19:06

oli collett said:
haha, I have a really similar set of movements before doing a deadlift.

Out of interest, lowering the bar like that rapidly, is that safe? I tend to go down slowly but I wonder if that's the cause of some of my problems in my lower back. I heard someone in the gym the other day talking about how you should just "let the bar go" but that kinda scares me!

Yep, load ordering for the win!

Dropping the bar is safe, provided that you're not overextending so the bar would lands on your knees. Problems can occur when you try and lower the bar slowly but don't reverse the movement properly causing your lumbar spine to bend. Break at hips ---> RDL to just below knee ---> controlled drop to floor.

Ideally I'd do this with every rep, but I lose interest with high volume stuff

For some people the eccentric movement is useful (bodybuilders in particular), but for the type of training I'm doing it isn't as important.

reiyushin · 9 Feb 2012 at 20:35

Same ice, it'll get you some funny looks though

Definately my preference.

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