*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***

Skeptic

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?????!!!!!????!?!?!?!?! my first response and one of the first replies to your post i asked this and no answer.

If we dont know your current position we cannot provide even more detailed information in to why this isnt the best, safest, healthiest way of achieving what you want to achieve.

How heavy are you currently, whats your goal weight etc?
 
Skeptic said:
I posted an intermittent fasting protocol and asked 'is this OK?'. I was then told that I was a bad idea and only suited to manlet and those who weren't scared to lose their sweet gainz.

I then posted a response saying that, actually, this was a perfectly reasonable path to go along to lose some weight - no better or worse than any other although some emerging evidence suggests that IF might have other health benefits.

What am I rebutting? :D
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So you don't need anyone here. You already have the answers and don't care for any other opinions. What more did you want? In the words of the twins "It's all just advice, do the **** you want". :)
 
Zefan said:
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I lol'd

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P.S what happened to you? You were never such a douche during your UWE days. :p
 
Syla5 said:
Skeptic

WHAT ARE YOUR GOALS?????!!!!!????!?!?!?!?! my first response and one of the first replies to your post i asked this and no answer.

If we dont know your current position we cannot provide even more detailed information in to why this isnt the best, safest, healthiest way of achieving what you want to achieve.

How heavy are you currently, whats your goal weight etc?
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Sorry mate I didn't see this.

I've been out of the gym about a year, so looking to shift the bit of fat that I've put on since, and then to start back w/ intensity. I am 1.80m and ~13st. Want to get back to 12st.

I think we should just move on now. I concede that I should eat more on eating days - which will not be a chore :o
 
Freefaller said:
If you feel your grip is holding back your work then straps are there to help.

HOWEVER, I personally feel that by jumping onto straps you're also missing out on some good grip work. Though saying that I do very little grip specific work.

A few things that may help are:

Plate pinches
Fat gripz on dumbells/barbells when doing some of those exercises or alternatively do towel holds - i.e. hang a towel and grab the 2 halves and try and hold yourself up as long as possible - holding onto a towel is hard and creates a great forearm pump.
Static holds

However, I'm not a fan of grip specific training - things like captains of crush are a waste of time as they just train crushing strength. I mean you can do things like finger press ups, rubber ball pinches etc... but I wouldn't spend time in the gym specifically training grip.

I do deads before my pull ups, and then finish off with some DB rows with fat gripz - the make the dumbbell handle VERY thick - i.e. around 4" in diameter.

So my grip does get hammered.

This has taken years of training without straps. When deadlifting try DOH grip as much as possible. When putting plates away, or moving plates, try doing them with plate pinches instead. When doing chins, when you've finished your set - just try and hang there as long as possible - if you get forearm pumps and pain it means you're doing it right. Also, white knuckle grip - i.e. concentrate on holding on as tight as possible.

Grip is a slow thing to develop as it's mainly tendon work, and they take a long time to strengthen - as typically we don't give them enough recovery - but that's just the way it is! Nothing to try and avoid.
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Thanks for this. I'm going to look at some Fatgripz and some of the methods you suggest. Will report back after the use of my fingers and wrists come back :D
 
Skeptic said:
Sorry mate I didn't see this.

I've been out of the gym about a year, so looking to shift the bit of fat that I've put on since, and then to start back w/ intensity. I am 1.80m and ~13st. Want to get back to 12st.

I think we should just move on now. I concede that I should eat more on eating days - which will not be a chore :o
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From that then it sounds like fasting is a bit extreme for just 1stone. If you just crack on with the intense workout and balanced diet you will surely make lean gains and burn fat no?
 
Captain Planet said:
Thanks for this. I'm going to look at some Fatgripz and some of the methods you suggest. Will report back after the use of my fingers and wrists come back :D
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You'll be lucky... ;)

Blood flow/vasculature for tendons is pretty poor, which means DOMS lasts much longer. Try a week. :)































Not entirely serious. :D
 
Skeptic said:
Sorry mate I didn't see this.
I've been out of the gym about a year, so looking to shift the bit of fat that I've put on since, and then to start back w/ intensity. I am 1.80m and ~13st. Want to get back to 12st.
I think we should just move on now. I concede that I should eat more on eating days - which will not be a chore :o
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The simpliest, easiest and most beneficial way to do this will still be a standard cut, 2k-2.2k cals per day with heavy weight training 3 days a week, and throw in some HIIT as well.

There is no way that you can train on 600 cals a day, or on the flip side of this there is no way you can recover after training if your first rest day is only 600 cals.

If you really want to consider a fasting/cycling diet for fat burning check out CBL, CNS, or as vastly less drastic IF diet. ADF is extreme, and for what you want to achieve will be counter productive and will just make you feel rubbish after about 2-3 weeks of consistent training.

Lossing weight isnt about extreme diets, and ultra low calories. Manipulation of eating periods is fine, but extreme for you wont work. Your not obese, you dont have much to lose, so why rush?
 
Skeptic said:
Sorry mate I didn't see this.

I've been out of the gym about a year, so looking to shift the bit of fat that I've put on since, and then to start back w/ intensity. I am 1.80m and ~13st. Want to get back to 12st.

I think we should just move on now. I concede that I should eat more on eating days - which will not be a chore :o
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Slow and steady wins the race. Why not just do as I've suggested, and lower your cals gradually to a sensible amount and just see how you go rather than jumping into something extreme like this? You don't need any specialised diets - only the elite of lifters/athletes follow programmes that give you some performance edge - we're all typically amateur gym goers in pursuit of health.

That's the only reason people are reacting the way they are - they think you've come in and said;

"this is what I'm doing - what do you think? Well sod you I'm doing it anyway!"

Which is why the incredulity rose. We've given advice and alternatives - if you're not interested, then accept that and do what you want to do. However, we have a lot of people here with years of practical experience with physiques that show what our knowledge can achieve, but also with very in depth understanding of how bodies work in the weight lifting game.
 
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So after all that (btw thanks it was very entertaining), you don't even lift?

Or did I miss something?

If you're planning on making any progress then you'll want to find a more compatible diet.

In short, good luck with your stick man and no gains goals of 2013.
 
Woooooooooooooooo 130KG Squat today new PB, form felt TIGHT as a drum. Chest up, sitting back not folding forward. Felt easy, only difference to what I normally do? Took a sugar free energy drink packed with caffeine felt absolutely amazing. Could have probably got 140Kg if I tried. Flew up. Feel awesome right now.

Anyway that's it for chasing numbers. New PB in squat and deadlift this week, enough of PBs time to get regimented, work on bar speed and reps and tight form. Even though my squat form felt fantastic.
 
Mason- said:
Woooooooooooooooo 130KG Squat today new PB, form felt TIGHT as a drum. Chest up, sitting back not folding forward. Felt easy, only difference to what I normally do? Took a sugar free energy drink packed with caffeine felt absolutely amazing. Could have probably got 140Kg if I tried. Flew up. Feel awesome right now.

Anyway that's it for chasing numbers. New PB in squat and deadlift this week, enough of PBs time to get regimented, work on bar speed and reps and tight form. Even though my squat form felt fantastic.
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Yeah... just be careful with that. ;)

Great lift, regardless. Depth?
 
mrthingyx said:
Yeah... just be careful with that. ;)

Great lift, regardless. Depth?
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Definitely below parallel, by an inch or two, mobility is getting better, stretching pays off.

Did bar x lots
70 x 10
80 x 8
90 x 6
120 x 2
130 x 1.

Gonna work on deadlift form HARD. From my video it was obvious my form on high weight is dirty.
 
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