*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***

It just sounds dangerous, tbh. It recommends doing 20 squats at your 12 squat limit, which is just asking for **** form.

You may make good gains, but only so long as you don't snap your spine in half and nuke your lumber from orbit.

I guess it depends how far you go.. if you feel pain coming from you spine etc stop! :) I can comfortably squat 60kg for 20 reps.. at a push 80-90kg should be possible :o
 
In fact, having just read that site there doesn't seem to be much of a basis for anything. 1 set of 20 reps isn't going to build much muscle, or stronger muscle. The whole premise is based on "you did it last week, so you'll be able to do it next week.... With an extra 5lbs", which is a ridiculous and flawed ideology. And if you can manage 20 reps of your 12-rep max, then it either isn't your 12-rep max, or your 20 rep set is taking so long it can't be called a set.

Either way, even a typical hypertrophy routine will see you gaining more strength, and I dare say even a strength orientated routine will gain you more mass!
 
Going by your last deadlift session it's a fair whack of weight. Post a video.

I'll have to do one next week. I did work hard at my technique over the summer but maybe I've slipped back into old habits. I had the same thing last week and the soreness had gone completely the next morning.
 
anyone seen that mad-ish 20 rep squat routine? what do you lot think?

I just want to give it a go for no reason at all :(

It just sounds dangerous, tbh. It recommends doing 20 squats at your 12 squat limit, which is just asking for **** form.

You may make good gains, but only so long as you don't snap your spine in half and nuke your lumber from orbit.

Haven't read the link but have done high volume/set workouts before.

Currently do DC widowmaker sets which after warming up is 1 heavy set of 4-8RM, followed by a 2 minute rest and then a 20 rep set with a weight you would normally struggle with for 12 reps. CNS trickery comes in to play somewhat. Works out that's done 3 times in 2 weeks due to A/B workouts and only once on each varient (back squat, front squat, hack squat).

You need some heavy stimulus in there too along with structure and progression. Aimlessly lifting similar weights for 20 reps week in week out isn't optimal.
 
So is that sore feeling definitely not normal? I'm just concerned because it's lower back.

I'm not concerned, for example, when my chest or legs hurts like hell after a session as to me that seems normal.
 
yeah 3.7 liters of milk(I do drink a lot of milk but even then this would be over the top for me) and 1set 20 reps - adding weight every week, do 2 days/week from what I've read - will reach your max in 5-6 weeks at a guess :o

When I started lifting, I was lanky and couldn't eat enough without spending $$$ so I did the gallon of milk a day (GOMAD), worked an absolute treat!
 
My grip has slowly been getting better, but today’s session was hindered slightly by grip issues.

My bicep pull downs and dumbbell bent over rows, toward the end of the sets, I'm literally holding on for dear life by the tips of my fingers...

Is it time to use straps or some aid?
 
My grip has slowly been getting better, but today’s session was hindered slightly by grip issues.

My bicep pull downs and dumbbell bent over rows, toward the end of the sets, I'm literally holding on for dear life by the tips of my fingers...

Is it time to use straps or some aid?

As tom said, work on your grip further (what weight is it anyway?) Or adopt a hook grip on db rows.
 
My grip has slowly been getting better, but today’s session was hindered slightly by grip issues.

My bicep pull downs and dumbbell bent over rows, toward the end of the sets, I'm literally holding on for dear life by the tips of my fingers...

Is it time to use straps or some aid?

Firstly, what on Earth is a bicep pull down?

Secondly, I'd go against the grain here and say I would happily use straps on BORs. There's no point letting the weak link in your body (in this case your forearms) hinder your other muscles (in this case lats and biceps) from getting the benefit of the exercise.

Your lats may develop strength a lot faster than your forearms, and there is absolutely no need to hinder that development by not strapping up.

FWIW, I have used straps for BORs, but I don't currently. My grip is fine and challenged enough with deadlifts and other back work, including bicep exercises (anyone else get sick forearm pump from barbell curls?). What I would recommend is getting some liquid chalk, it will improve your grip massively without the need of resorting to straps.
 
if your grip is failing and your arnt currently use anything then start with liquid chalk.

Once you get to a stage where you understand that even with liquid chalk, grip is the limiting factor on a lift where you arnt concerned about grip e.g. BOR's (as monkee has said above) then get some straps.

No point starting straight in with straps when chalk really does an impressive job.
 
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