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*** The 2013 Gym Rats Thread ***

Discussion in 'SA Archive' started by Morba, Dec 31, 2012.

  1. mrthingyx

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    Depending on what BennyC was suggesting, disproportionate musculature has serious implications for injury and mobility.

    For bodybuilders this isn't really much of an issue, simply because all those bunched up, bulky fibres aren't really meant to go through full ROM for things like sprinting, jumping or lifting. For models, this is even less of an issue as their objective is to have audience-appropriate musculature with low body fat. Look at Hugh Jackman: guy has no legs: so what? He's not actually going to do anything, other than look big in a vest. And then there are the discussions over film stars, models, etc. and their use of steroids to change size so quickly...

    For an athlete, being unbalanced is a serious problem because of the crazy biomechanics that can occur when over-developed, out-of-kilter muscles pull against non-existent synergists. Knee, shoulder and back problems are all quite happy to manifest at these points. Sprinting requires a lot of flexibility to go with those big leg muscles. And for those leg muscles to get any decent toque requires (sigh) a stable base...

    Which is why most athletic training involves sport-specific as well as complementary (assistance) exercises.
     
  2. BennyC

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    Jimmies rustled much?

    Perhaps you have my point misconstrued, with plenty of hard work & neglect the body will grow out of balance...erghh :rolleyes: okay, whatever you say.
     
  3. duvet77

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    My goal is to have arms bigger than my legs... I'm getting there! :D
     
  4. mrthingyx

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    Based on what I've seen of your squatting, it shouldn't take long, either...

    *BOOM!* ;) :D
     
  5. BennyC

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    Oh snap.
     
  6. grudas

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  7. duvet77

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    Don't need to train legs, I cycle dude. And the chicks just like the guns man! :p
     
  8. uv

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    Never heard of "dude", but no drugs talk is allowed on here.
     
  9. BennyC

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    ^LOL. Very good. 1ml of dude EOD.
     
  10. Erich Kriegler

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    This is worth watching

     
  11. Fireskull

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    Bru my body is synertarded, natty and I have one ted bigger than the other :mad:
     
  12. Delvis

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    Mmmmm, different sized teds.
     
  13. Somnambulist

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  14. Barks

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    I just put some videos of my dead lifts in the form thread. Would really appreciate feedback, I haven't taken a video since the summer when my form was actually OK but now it looks awful again.
     
  15. illuz

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    Started my new routine today, going to stick to this for a bulk:
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    Now I just need some help with my diet...

    Breakfast: 4 weetabix (280kcal) + 2 large eggs sandwich (380kcal)

    Lunch: Snack/sandwich(whats available if I'm out etc, about 2-300kcal) + protein shake (726kcal - using FF milk)

    Tea-time: meal - 2 chicken breasts, chips/rice/carbs, vegetables. About 700kcal.

    Later on: 100g Cashews - 600kcal.

    I may even eat more - I most probably will, this is just what I will have as a minimum throughout the day. I put that at about 3000kcal a day. Is it worth having an extra shake if I'm working out that day? I should be good to go, right?
     
  16. mrthingyx

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    A lot of bread in there... How about ditching the sandwich at breakfast and swapping it for bacon (or, if you're Jewish or Muslim, more eggs)?

    Get something decent for lunch, not ANOTHER sandwich.

    And no deadlifts?

    And how much chest? If you don't have much training history, hitting that kind of chest volume in one session will completely kill any overhead work you attempt. :eek:

    And shrugs? Really? :o
     
  17. Barks

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    I used to do a very similar regime but the reality is you can drop most of the stuff and tailor your training predominantly around the squat, bench press and deadlifts. I still can't deadlift well, in fact my technique is atrocious, but in all other areas I have made massive progress by dropping things like shrugs and lat raises and replacing them with more demanding exercises such as chins and wide-grip pull ups.
     
  18. illuz

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    Yeah I'm only eating that until I've got no more, then I'll get some oats/porridge for the mornings instead.

    I'll normally have lunch when I'm out of the house, in the center of Newcastle. I guess I could cook up some chicken pasta for through the week. I'll ditch the egg sandwich for something else as well too.



    I'll add deadlifts into my day and I've removed some things too, ended up with this:

    Push
    • Flat DB bench – 3x5
    • Incline DB bench – 3x5
    • Seated OHP – 3x5
    • Tricep pushdown – 3x10
    • Tricep overhead – 3x10

    Legs - stayed the same

    Pull
    • Deadlift – 3x5
    • DB rows – 3x5
    • Rear delt fly – 3x10
    • Wide grip pullups – 3x8
    • Chinups – 3x8
    • Ezbar – 3x10

    I think this is near enough what mrthingyx recommended a while ago. I'll get cracking and keep a log of my progress :)
     
  19. Skillmister

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    I know this is bs because i don't train legs and i still grow.

    /maybesrs
     
  20. Wink

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    I'm giving up on normal deadlifts for the foreseeable future while I'm at DW gym. The shape of the plates (hexagons I think?) just makes it a nightmare, you have to constantly re-adjust your position or the bar.