I know - it is one of the things I don't really get about that sort of powerlifting (including those stupid suits).
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I know - it is one of the things I don't really get about that sort of powerlifting (including those stupid suits).
Yes of course, anyone who finds even the slightest bit of amusement from others trying to change themselves really royals me up. But everyone has to start somewhere
I think you guys are assuming a fair old amount about people who work out with weights... the biggest things people will pay attention to are:
- People who are lifting dangerously;
- People who look like they are wasting their time (i.e. after six/eight weeks, are still doing the 2kg dumbells for shoulder prcess for eight reps);
- Hot chicks in yoga pants, doing... well... it generally doesn't really matter.
Most gym goers don't actually care about what anybody else is doing, so just go in and do you thing.
Obviously, that "thing" should be a considered, structured and progressive traing programme.
Please watch the following videos for guidance, if you have any questions...
New to the gym?
How to behave with the bench press:
Gym etiquette
Then you have never done one properly.
And it is not particularly dangerous AS LONG AS it is taught and performed properly: reps for time is not properly.
Which goes to the heart of my problem with Crossfit.
To be honest, however, being around 6ft (181cm) myself and existing - in a previous life - at around 78kg and thinking I was big, I now know I was not. Not by a very, very, very long shot. And my arms weren't (and still aren't) as big as yours now.
It's nothing to be concerned about, however: you've made the decision to get huge, so let's do it.
*chuckles*
"'Bulgarian Split Squat' is just a name... the reality... is far, far worse."
I laughed. Hard.
Currently on a mobile so will try and respond at some later point.
Ok - most of that will be water because of the increased amount of glycogen being held in those muscles being introduced to resistance exercise. There might be some muscle in there, but it may also be greater profusion of vasculature due ot hte increased blood supply requirements.
Done a workout of: (bare in mind my weights are low as i am new)
Seated Rows close grip 35kg 3x8
Tricep Bar pulldowns 17kg 3x8
Bicep Curls 18kg 3x8
Lats Pulldowns(think it's called that, overhead pulldown to below chin) 35kg 3x8
Bent over rows 20kg 3x8(i can do a lot more on this but first time i do it so)
Dumbell Chest Press 10kg each 3x8 (can do a lot more on this but my leftside is weak and getting form better for next time)
Standing Dumbells Lateral Raises 8kg each 3x8 (again leftside weak needs catching up so doing a weight it's feeling good with)
Was this a good workout of exercises? i am trying to workout each muscle group area on each day(do compounds on thursday with legs) i go but problem is i go mon/weds/thurs/sun so two days are next to each other twice so might be best just go back to split workouts for them?
That is a very busy schedule of beach weights that hurts my brain. Swap it all for chinups, bench and overhead press.
And as FrenchTart points out: where is your leg work? Where is your core work? Where is your real back work?
That's a nasty set of sessions for a beginner, and I'm not sure how you can manage regular cardio AFTER HIIT twice a week... which suggests you're not doing HIIT properly. To support this, it looks like you will also have to eat pretty much everything you soo if you don't want to look like a marathon runner, too.
I would honestly look back at either Stronglifts or Steedie's "New Year's Resolution" routine to begin with.
Don't we all (aside from the "not huge" bit...
.Staying at around 10-12% bodyfat and putting on muscle mass is quite a challenge - quite possible for noob gains, but pretty difficult as you progress through your lifting career.
Regarding muscle mass itself, I would drop the assumption that you're suddenly going to explode into Ronnie Coleman or something after a month, or even a year. This stuff takes time: the noob gains you see are just easily removed once you stop, as those gains are a lot of muscle perfusion (i.e. water/blood) that drains out once those muscles aren't used properly (i.e. you stop working out).
If you want to look 'solid', then rethink your routine, rethink your priorities, and settle in for the long term.
With regard to your hand, looks like you're in for a LOT of pulling work to bring this up to scratch (assuming it's all healthy to be worked out)... this means:
- single arm rows;
- bent-over rows;
- deadlifts;
- Romanian deadlifts;
- Chinups;
Whilst not an exclusive list, you need to be focussing on heavy stuff to really stress your grip and build that strength in your forearm. Don't forget to look at your wrist and shoulder mobility for this side, too (actually, both sides!).
Either way, congratulations on your existing gains: keep it up!
Depending on how you want to end up (I.e. Mo Farah style?) my preference would be to run on my off/rest days to help circulate blood around those DOMS-ridden muscles.
Now if you are pushing the running hard, this will detract from your importantD) gains by sapping energy and introducing different muscle fatigue.
Ultimately, however, see what works.
Edit: and be prepared for a spiralling food bill!
Now if you are pushing the running hard, this will detract from your important
D) gains by sapping energy and introducing different muscle fatigue.Ultimately, however, see what works.
Edit: and be prepared for a spiralling food bill!
Only you know this as you are the best judge of how hard you are working.
Lighter is good so your central nervous system and muscles get used to what you're hitting them with... but you then have to progress consistently.
And this is why weightlifting is awesome. And an absolute nightmare at the same time.
I have finally got a gym membership! Yes!
I've got til June to see some change, whereby I will then be moving on (hopefully to a graduate job).
Best hypertrophy starting routine? Eating a lot better nowadays, and will be aiming for probably 3,000 calories a day.
Looking to do a bit of cardio just to reduce my heart rate and to get better circulation. Maybe a couple miles twice a week.
Have a look in the OP.
I'm about to hand my notice in at David Lloyd! \/ I shall be saving myself nearly £600 this year as a result.
Goodbye DL you bloody useless POS gym. Bloody 3 month notice, but meh, it's done.
Happy days.
Well done. Now start Olympic lifting.
Hi Gents
Quick question, are gloves in the gym a no no
Thanks
The actual 'grip' of your hand relates to the strength of your forearm muscles (i.e. the contractile apparatus of the fingers: what you're effectively saying is that those muscles are not as strong as you would like. They are no different from the others in your body and need strengthening. On that basis, do you really think sticking another notsogrippy layer between your hand and the bar/dumbell is going to improve the situation?
As Deception points out, they won't help, and will actually make the problem worse over time as the unstable grip will probably lead to greater fatigue of the interosseous muscles (those between the metacarpals) more so than lifting without.
The best 'augmentors' of grip come in four (edited because I can't count) sizes:
- More static bar/weight/whatever holds: load up a bar with something heavy that you can lift and just hold it; towel holds, plate pinches, etc.
- Chalk: absorbs the sweat from your hands, making the bar easier to hold.
- Lifting straps: if your hands are tiring before whatever muscles are being worked, then these will take the strain off your forearms in specific circumstances.
- FatGripz/Bar work: increasing the diameter of the bar/dumbell you're holding significantly increases the amount of work your forearm muscles have to do, leading to untold misery, but a much better group strength.
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Exciting times, been working on this for last 6 months. Managed to secure some big sponsors to join so hopefully it will be a success.
Just gone live with the following.
100 Day Plan
Home Page
Apart from odd correction and pre shots on the site by the web developer it's more or less complete.
Good luck with it, dude. It's shockingly expensive, but I hope you get good results for all involved (both "athletes" (sorry, but
) and punters..To be fair, even if they were well-informed, people want to hand over cold'n'hard instead of actually putting work in.
Look at gym membership statistics. Look at bariatric surgery statistics. Look at the proliferation of weightloss pills and 'thermogenic' BS. EDIT: Look at the number of ELECTIVE liposuction/implant surgeries.
All of this points to people knowing they should do something, but thinking that spending money = getting the benefits.
For what? Anything in particular?
Back to clips (apologies) I onlynlift with them at work to protect the floor from errant plates that might slide off the bar. I never bother at home, because it is always a fun test of muscular/pattern imbalance to see whether one side rises/twists at a different rate to the other.
My former lifting coach told me off for putting clips on and explained the above reasoning. I like it.
My former lifting coach told me off for putting clips on and explained the above reasoning. I like it.