*** The 2014 Gym Rats Thread ***

Straight progression in squats still going good week by week, 10kg jumps.

Started off at 60kgs in January and last night got my 190x3, almost back where I left off! :D

Nice!

Quick question for you guys - Completed my 2nd cycle of Wendls 531. Was in the gym yesterday and one of the guys who jumped in with the squats with me was doing something called "Grey Skull LP". I've had a quick look at it and it looks like a modified SL/SS program. Has anyone here used this program before?
 
So today I've started in earnest of trying once again to eat clean(er).

I have a bad habit of eating a lot of rubbish when I'm at work as it's usually easier (and often cheaper) to do so. I've been going to the gym regularly for a while now, but I seem to just be breaking even on the BW.

I'm usually good at avoiding junk, but my problem is that if it's in front of me, I'll eat it. My biggest problem is going to be my sweet-tooth of an evening. Has anyone got any clean suggestions to help tackle that?
 
Sorry, The Chemist: no Grayskull here. Although practically, I wouldn't worry... One thing about almost all training programmes is the concept of progressive overload. If you are doing that, then it is just question of whether the routine works for you

Nix: the question is slightly more fundamental, because it sounds like you are lacking willpower. This has serious consequences for your gym life, because you may lack the will power to:

a) keep going to the gym?
b) grind out that last set?
c) that last rep...?

If you are absolutely desperate for sweet crud, eat it in the evening after a workout... That way your body will deal with it more efficiently. But the question is what happens if a colleague/mate brings in doughnuts to work? That is your issue. :)
 
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Quick question for you guys - Completed my 2nd cycle of Wendls 531. Was in the gym yesterday and one of the guys who jumped in with the squats with me was doing something called "Grey Skull LP". I've had a quick look at it and it looks like a modified SL/SS program. Has anyone here used this program before?

If you are doing 5/3/1 you should be too advanced for greyskull.
 
If you are absolutely desperate for sweet crud, eat it in the evening after a workout... That way your body will deal with it more efficiently. But the question is what happens if a colleague/mate brings in doughnuts to work? That is your issue. :)

I appreciate the no-BS, but that's not the case. I've made a decision to try and do this, so that's all that needs to be said on the matter. No zero days! I'm just being honest with my weakness so I can address it now. :p

The first few weeks are going to be the hardest as it's habit breaking, so which is why I'm looking for direct alternatives.

I had pineapple and fat-free yoghurt last night to try and ward off the sweet-tooth. It helped. I'm basically after similar suggestions.
 
I appreciate the no-BS, but that's not the case. I've made a decision to try and do this, so that's all that needs to be said on the matter. No zero days! I'm just being honest with my weakness so I can address it now. :p

The first few weeks are going to be the hardest as it's habit breaking, so which is why I'm looking for direct alternatives.

I had pineapple and fat-free yoghurt last night to try and ward off the sweet-tooth. It helped. I'm basically after similar suggestions.

Do, or do not... there is no try. ;)

There isn't really a viable alternative to sweet crud, I'm afraid. Having a 'fat-free' yoghurt indicates - to me - that you don't understand the premise of using your food to manage your body, as such. In line with my apparent 'no-BS' approach', you can either do this or you can't. :) Having weaned myself off carbs for a period of 10 days, once upon a time, it only takes around 4 days until you start realising how much you don't need them constantly. :)

The point of cutting out/adjusting your intake of sweet stuff is actually to help the body manage its response to food and very readily available energy sources... such as carbs.

I'm not saying cut them out entirely, because that's dumb on a number of levels. However, grazing on them throughout the day will slowly, over time (we're talking months/years) reduce your body's ability to deal with them, potentially leading to type 2 diabetes. This is why I make the point that you should try and EARN your carbs and sweet treats, with exercise, or abstinence during the day. It helps the body deal with that easy fuel more readily.

Now, this approach works for me - it's not for everybody.

So to try and manage your cravings, the first port of call are the zero-calorie sweeteners, most of which taste horrific.

Secondly, find an alternative to sweet stuff: nuts, seeds and other fat-based goodies are great for this.

Thirdly, if you HAVE to eat sweet stuff, make sure you don't over-indulge. But this is a lot harder to do. :)
 
I'm okay during the day. It's very late at night that's the killer for me. I just want ideas of 'allowed' things I can resort to without reaching for a hobnob instead.

Do you have any suggestions of good clean meals that I can prepare for lunch and dinner whilst at work? It's difficult for me to prepare things in advance (too long to explain), so ideally these need to be something I can pop to the supermarket during a break for and prepare within about 20 mins using a microwave or a small electric oven.

Yesterday I had mackerel and a jacket potato for dinner. I then had some pumpkin-seed ryvita with peanut-butter when I got home followed by the pineapple and yoghurt later on.

Today I've had jacket potatoes again with salad and chicken. I'm doing a small evening shift, so would like an idea for something clean I can prepare later on before I start getting bored of potatoes. :p
 
To be fair, now that you've explained, it actually sounds like you're probably ok as far as carb intake goes.

The point isn't to become a hermit, because that's not healthy, fun or - as a result - conducive to long-term maintenance.

Regarding easy stuff that I have for lunch/breakfast...

- Salads with fish/cheese;
- Cottage cheese as a snack;
- Cream/ground almond pancakes with sucralose syrup (weird, but pretty awesome);
- Stir fries with courgette noodles (actually genuinely awesome);
- Meat and veg of some description (like a stir-fry, really);
- Coffee with cream.

It's simple for me as I go to work during the day and come home at night, so manage my carb intake without any issue.
 
If you know what your macros are (even roughly) then everything is 'allowed', it's just a case of getting MOST of your intake from nutritious food (this can include some processed foods) and say 20% from whatever tickles your fancy. If you tell yourself you can't eat a hobnob, all that'll happen is you'll restrict yourself for ages, then eventually you'll go mad and eat a whole pack, be overcome with guilt and swear not to eat any again, and the cycle will repeat. This is a great way to develop an unhealthy relationship with food (orthorexia nervosa, specifically).

Depending on your diet, 'clean' can mean a variety of things, and food should be judged in the context of the rest of the diet rather than in isolation - eating nothing but hobnobs isn't a good idea from a nutrition standpoint, but a couple of hobnobs to finish off your carb/fat allowance would be non-issue. It's all about moderation, unsurprisingly.

Go on YouTube and look at peoples vlogs who have videos of how they apply flexible dieting principles. Search for 'a full day of flexible dieting' 'full day of eating' etc to see how people apply these principles (people like ChelseaLifts, Tim Thebodeau, Michael Kory).

Being successful with a diet, whatever the goal is about adherence. It's easier to adhere to a diet if it a) contains things you enjoy eating b) it's not unnecessarily rigid. This is in contrast to how the majority rebound/fail with diet because they go to extremes or do things that are unsustainable/don't actually fit their lifestyle/preferences.
 
Ah, you see the problem is I can never just eat one hobnob. :p

I can take it or leave it, but if it's there I'll eat it. It works best for me by restricting myself but allowing a cheat every now and then.

Salads should be easy enough to stick to at work most of the time I imagine. Just taking it a day at a time. Before I know it, it'll have added up nicely. :)
 
I think, if you can handle it, going cold turkey on your typical treats is a good idea, at least for a little while. It helps break the connection to your standard pattern. You also get to explore some alternate delicious treats.
 
Ah, you see the problem is I can never just eat one hobnob. :p

I can take it or leave it, but if it's there I'll eat it. It works best for me by restricting myself but allowing a cheat every now and then.

Salads should be easy enough to stick to at work most of the time I imagine. Just taking it a day at a time. Before I know it, it'll have added up nicely. :)

For me I found that aiming to do enough cardio (and hence kcal) burn to 'pay' for my treat/cheat worked well. To start with it meant that it didn't affect my weight loss and after a while it meant that I got frustrated with how much if affected my strength training.

Now I still do a fair amount of cardio and tbh I still eat a fair amount of crap but it's all much more within reason (still could be better, of course) and I tend to balance my meals around what kind of exercise I will be doing on a particular day.
 
It doesnt wven need to be long cardio, you could just do a few sessions of hiit every so often. Or just eat less biscuits.

I eat too many biscuits. I had the most amazing cheese cake last night.

Oh, eating ueberries in the evening is nice as a snack :)
 
So today I've started in earnest of trying once again to eat clean(er).

I have a bad habit of eating a lot of rubbish when I'm at work as it's usually easier (and often cheaper) to do so. I've been going to the gym regularly for a while now, but I seem to just be breaking even on the BW.

I'm usually good at avoiding junk, but my problem is that if it's in front of me, I'll eat it. My biggest problem is going to be my sweet-tooth of an evening. Has anyone got any clean suggestions to help tackle that?

Ah, you see the problem is I can never just eat one hobnob. :p

Will power, you either have it or you don't :p

I'm the same, when it comes to biscuits. It's all or nothing, so I 99% of the time opt for nothing.

I think, if you can handle it, going cold turkey on your typical treats is a good idea, at least for a little while. It helps break the connection to your standard pattern. You also get to explore some alternate delicious treats.

I generally find people develop the 'need' for particular junk foods in order to feel fine or normal. If you just man up, cut the **** out and go about your day you realise you are fine without them and actually better off for a host of reasons.
 
I'm the weird one in the office because in the 2 years I've been here I've never touched the mountains of **** people bring in every now and again, these people will happily sit here and demolish 5 bits of cake throughout the day and then moan they've got high blood pressure.
STOP EATING THEN YOU FAT ****ING ****!!!1!11!1111!!!!"
 
Yeah my work is terrible for people bringing stuff in. They don't usually bother asking me now though because I always decline. At first they'd insist but after repeated "you can give me it, but it'll just sit there and not get eaten so someone else might as well have it. :)" they got the idea. Most of the time it's stuff that isn't even that appetising anyway, like donuts with poverty amounts of jam in.
 
They still ask me out of politeness but they know when I say no I mean it so they leave me alone unlike most of the others who might say no but after a quick oh go on end up ramming it down their gullet.
 
Just had some peanut butter on ryvita with some sliced banana on top. It was surprisingly nice.

My hamstrings and lower back are still sore. That's the fourth day of DOMS now. I really need to do more deadlifts.

I think I'll have to give cardio a miss again today and work my upper half. Time to start doing some OHPs!
 
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