*** The 2014 Gym Rats Thread ***

Whilst I don't like this sort of routine (one day for legs? Seriously?), anyway, here are some adjustments to make it more useful. ;)

No incline chest work?

On a semi related note, how does this sound for a breakfast bulking shake?:

300ml milk
2 scoops protein
2 scoops oats
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

Quick and easy in the morning!
 
Oh also, flip your 4x8-10 into either 10x4 or 8x4 for your compounds. MUCH better volume and overall you'll shift more tonnage.
 
No incline chest work?

On a semi related note, how does this sound for a breakfast bulking shake?:

300ml milk
2 scoops protein
2 scoops oats
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

Quick and easy in the morning!

incline chest isn't the best. It only really works the upper chest. For better overall chest development, decline chest has been proven to work much much better. Only select incline if your top chest is indeed lacking.
 
No incline chest work?

On a semi related note, how does this sound for a breakfast bulking shake?:

300ml milk
2 scoops protein
2 scoops oats
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

Quick and easy in the morning!

Mine is:

Blended oats
Banana
Raspberries or blueberries
Peanut butter
Milk
Greek Yoghurt
 
No incline chest work?

On a semi related note, how does this sound for a breakfast bulking shake?:

300ml milk
2 scoops protein
2 scoops oats
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

Quick and easy in the morning!

Right - I'll dip into this once, and once only. For that reason, please forgive my deliberate lack of spoiler tags...

Technically, there is some difference in EMG activity between decline benching and regular/incline benching: decline does show elevated activation of the lower sternal area of the pectoralis major muscle. However, there is no difference in upper pec activation between decline, flat and incline. This could be explained by the relative involvement of the anterior deltoids in each movement (they are more effectively removed from the movement in decline bench).

Practically, if you can quantify a difference in development between even decline and flat bench, this is probably your genetics rather than actual, straight up muscle development.

Changes to grip width and type are actually just as effective as stimulating different EMG activity (muscle activation), but again if you notice a difference, you are probably just realising specific genetic potential rather than discovering new gains. The exercises will feel different because you are teaching yourself different activation patterns...

In musculoskeletal land, you're far better off ensuring:

- Your form is good/correct/whatever to enable efficient and effective muscle recruitment;
- Your mobility is also good to allow your muscles to work more efficiently and effectively.

Spot the trend? :)

Regarding that shake, it looks vile, but it has a lot of what you need in there. In terms of bulking you do appear to be running the risk of thinking about it too hard: all that brotein in one go from a shake doesn't sound like my idea of fun, particularly when other options like chicken, fish, etc. are available.
 
No incline chest work?

On a semi related note, how does this sound for a breakfast bulking shake?:

300ml milk
2 scoops protein
2 scoops oats
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

Quick and easy in the morning!

Is it because you don't have time for proper food?

You'd be better off doing ring dips - there's little point in incline BB. If you must, do some low incline DB work.
 
No incline chest work?

On a semi related note, how does this sound for a breakfast bulking shake?:

300ml milk
2 scoops protein
2 scoops oats
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

Quick and easy in the morning!

You do realise that shake is in the region of 1000kcals?
 
No incline chest work?

On a semi related note, how does this sound for a breakfast bulking shake?:

300ml milk
2 scoops protein
2 scoops oats
2 tablespoons peanut butter
1 banana

Quick and easy in the morning!

I have similar in the morning, but less protein and almond butter instead of peanut. No banana either because bananas are horrible.

Only use it when in a rush though, normally.
 
Can I have some advice on my routine please.

Mon: Chest/Tris
Flat bench 5x5
Incline bench 3x8
Dumbbell flys 3x8
Pushups 3xfailure
Skull crushers 3x10
Cable pulldowns 3x10

Wed: Legs/shoulders
Squats 5x5
Leg press 3x8
Leg extensions 3x8
Seated military press 3x8
OHP 3x8
Front raises 3x8

Fri: Back/Bis
Wide grip pullups 3xfailure
Deadlifts 5x5
Lat pull downs 3x8
BOR 3x8
Dumbbell curls 3x8
EZ Bar curls or preacher curls 3x8

I normally do cardio/abs on separate days.

Thanks
 
Is it because you don't have time for proper food?

You'd be better off doing ring dips - there's little point in incline BB. If you must, do some low incline DB work.

Yeah I don't have time to prepare/eat proper food in the morning so i chuck the lot in a blender and down it :)

Anyway it's quite strange, I used to really keep up with lifting routines, diets etc a year or two ago, I didn't keep up for a while and now everything i'm being told is different. Different exercises/routines and different nutritional needs. (for example last time I checked the best amount of protein per day for max natural muscle growth was 1-1.5g per lb of bodyweight, now the accepted standard is 0.6-0.8g per lb of bodyweight and before i would never see anyone dare mention a chest session without incline work!)

I can't keep up with all these changes, i'm sure 90% of it all is just BS and it depends entirely on the individual
 
KISS. It really is just a question of keeping it simple. Until you're an advanced athelete/lifter there's no need to make it complicated. Big compounds, good diet, good rest, good mobility. That's all there is to it.

Nutritional knowledges changes a fair bit as food qualities change and as the science of nutrition matures and as knowledge increases. There has never been a need for a silly amount of protein, it's always been a myth touted by supplement companies, and guys on sauce who are sponsored by them. Sure, if you're taking a lot of exogenous hormones you will need more than normal amounts of supplementation/nutrition, for us mere mortals, just increasing calories through the 3 macros are all that you need.

How come you don't have time for food? Can you not get up a little earlier to make time/food?

The question is, do you want to be functionally strong, or just a blocky type of person? If the latter, you can do loads of machine work, incline, and isolate every muscle fibre in your body and you'll grow - you're still stimulating growth, whether it will lead to the best kinesiology is altogether different.
 
KISS. It really is just a question of keeping it simple. Until you're an advanced athelete/lifter there's no need to make it complicated. Big compounds, good diet, good rest, good mobility. That's all there is to it.

Nutritional knowledges changes a fair bit as food qualities change and as the science of nutrition matures and as knowledge increases. There has never been a need for a silly amount of protein, it's always been a myth touted by supplement companies, and guys on sauce who are sponsored by them. Sure, if you're taking a lot of exogenous hormones you will need more than normal amounts of supplementation/nutrition, for us mere mortals, just increasing calories through the 3 macros are all that you need.

How come you don't have time for food? Can you not get up a little earlier to make time/food?

The question is, do you want to be functionally strong, or just a blocky type of person? If the latter, you can do loads of machine work, incline, and isolate every muscle fibre in your body and you'll grow - you're still stimulating growth, whether it will lead to the best kinesiology is altogether different.
Yeah nutrition definitely changes the most, but I don't fall for the marketing hype any more from the sponsored bodybuilders etc.

I could get up earlier but I'm one of those people that really needs sleep to function properly throughout the day, I used to get up just half an hour earlier than I do now and that made a big difference to me.

I'm honestly not bothered about strength at all, my focus is entirely on building some more muscle. I used to be underweight, 5'10 9 Stone before I started going to the gym, and completely hated being like that. I've maxed out weight wise over the last few years at just over 13 stone with way too much fat for my liking, but am currently a week away from the end of a cut at about 12 stone.

My goal is to be somewhere around 12 and half to 13 stone with around 10% bodyfat. That's the zone I think i will feel best in general. Any strength gains in my effort to get here are just a bonus for me!
 
Does anyone here do upper/lower split two times a week(4 days total), if so how is it working for you? do you ever get tired at the end of each week much?
 
Can I have some advice on my routine please.

Mon: Chest/Tris
Flat bench 5x5
Incline bench 3x8
Dumbbell flys 3x8 (overhead pull works better than these i think?)
Pushups 3xfailure (change to dips, do push ups at home maybe?)
Skull crushers 3x10 (change to close grip benchpress)
Cable pulldowns 3x10

Wed: Legs/shoulders
Squats 5x5
Leg press 3x8
Leg extensions 3x8 (change to romanian deadlifts but do before legpress)
Calf Raises 3x8
Seated military press 3x8
OHP 3x8
Front raises 3x8

Fri: Back/Bis (start with deadlifts)
Wide grip pullups 3xfailure
Deadlifts 5x5
Lat pull downs 3x8 (could do bicep pulldowns for better chins as wide grip pullups are basically very similar to these)
Seated Cable Rows 3x8 (one handed dumbell rows if no cable and do BOR before these)
BOR 3x8
Dumbbell curls 3x8 (Do barbell)
Preacher Dumbell curls or Seated 3x8

I normally do cardio/abs on separate days.

Thanks

I've changed/added stuff giving my views but there may be better alternatives but this is just my view so someone else probably knows better on here.
 
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