*** The 2015 Gym Rats Thread ***

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How do you guys go back to the gym? I get so bored.. I've signed up to multiple gyms this year and left after a month. I went to one recently with a swimming pool etc and i used that loads but never actually went in the gym!

I need to get fit.. well fitter and build up a bit of muscle.

All of the gym ratz regulars on here train. Training isn't 'exercise'; it's not just doing something mindless or random because you feel like you have to, with no clear purpose. Goals, structured programming, progression, getting better at specific primary movements, understanding that these movements are a skill and like any skill to get better you have to practice and practice properly.
 
All of the gym ratz regulars on here train. Training isn't 'exercise'; it's not just doing something mindless or random because you feel like you have to, with no clear purpose. Goals, structured programming, progression, getting better at specific primary movements, understanding that these movements are a skill and like any skill to get better you have to practice and practice properly.

Yeah I understand that, I'm a keen cyclist so I train for that.

I've just never been advised what to do and the so called personal trainers have been useless and not helped at all. I've never been set a goal and I don't understand how it works, what certain things do.
 
Yeah I understand that, I'm a keen cyclist so I train for that.

I've just never been advised what to do and the so called personal trainers have been useless and not helped at all. I've never been set a goal and I don't understand how it works, what certain things do.

Not quite sure you'll ever have the commitment you dont sound interested at all. You should set your own goal, and most importantly enjoy it. If its a chore especially early days then your going to have an issue. All information your wanting is in this thread or on the internet. Think about what you want out of it and then find out how to achieve it and research into training plans for the goal and delve further into nutrition.
 
Wonder if I can pick your brains a second here.

I've just returned from a chavtastic weekend away in Portugal. All along the strip there were strength challenges, bet 10 Euro to win 100 Euro if you can hold your bodyweight for 120 seconds. There were various rules involved, you were not allowed to anchor your grip with your thumb and you couldn't use opposing grips. We spent a good 3 hours in one particular bar that was running one of these challenges and must have watched 60+ people attempt this, people of all shapes and sizes and nobody made it past a minute.

Assuming that there are no particularly dirty tricks involved - greased or vibrating bars - how difficult should this be? I realise that for your average person its going to be damn near impossible, but there was a lot of guys that were in good shape that got up to attempt this and couldn't get close.
 
Are box squats okay?

I've stalled a bit with my normal squats, but tried using my bench to box squat and found it so much more preferable. I'm only at light weight at the mo, but I'm able to go up the weight faster and perform a more explosive return. Only problem I'm having is bouncing the weight as I'm going too quickly and the bench I'm using is slightly above parallel.(Hip joint about 1 inch above knee as can't lower the bench)
 
Wonder if I can pick your brains a second here.

I've just returned from a chavtastic weekend away in Portugal. All along the strip there were strength challenges, bet 10 Euro to win 100 Euro if you can hold your bodyweight for 120 seconds. There were various rules involved, you were not allowed to anchor your grip with your thumb and you couldn't use opposing grips. We spent a good 3 hours in one particular bar that was running one of these challenges and must have watched 60+ people attempt this, people of all shapes and sizes and nobody made it past a minute.

Assuming that there are no particularly dirty tricks involved - greased or vibrating bars - how difficult should this be? I realise that for your average person its going to be damn near impossible, but there was a lot of guys that were in good shape that got up to attempt this and couldn't get close.

its a big thing at the moment, they did it in Scarborough the other day, i tried it messing about in the gym not timed just messing after a mate mentioned it and i did about a minute and started to feel myself struggle. Not sure if i could or couldnt do the full 2 minutes might have to try for fun though its interesting.
 
Wonder if I can pick your brains a second here.

I've just returned from a chavtastic weekend away in Portugal. All along the strip there were strength challenges, bet 10 Euro to win 100 Euro if you can hold your bodyweight for 120 seconds. There were various rules involved, you were not allowed to anchor your grip with your thumb and you couldn't use opposing grips. We spent a good 3 hours in one particular bar that was running one of these challenges and must have watched 60+ people attempt this, people of all shapes and sizes and nobody made it past a minute.

Assuming that there are no particularly dirty tricks involved - greased or vibrating bars - how difficult should this be? I realise that for your average person its going to be damn near impossible, but there was a lot of guys that were in good shape that got up to attempt this and couldn't get close.

Good shape doesn't mean "lifts." A lot of people who hit the gym very rarely train anything that with actually tax them, let alone do anything with a heavy barbell. :)

Are box squats okay?

I've stalled a bit with my normal squats, but tried using my bench to box squat and found it so much more preferable. I'm only at light weight at the mo, but I'm able to go up the weight faster and perform a more explosive return. Only problem I'm having is bouncing the weight as I'm going too quickly and the bench I'm using is slightly above parallel.(Hip joint about 1 inch above knee as can't lower the bench)

So you are moving faster with a lighter weight and not dropping below parallel... Read that back to yourself for a second. :)

Box squats are useful where they are useful, i.e letting geared lifters know where parallel is or building a novice/inflexible lifter up (or down?) to a parallel squat. So my first question is:

- What seems to be the problem? Technique (getting to or below parallel)? Power (shifting the weight) or just you don't feel you are getting much on your PB?

In other words: box squats are probably not the right thing for you; chances are you are training too heavy (slow), at too low volume (not enough at lighter weights) or with inefficient technique (kinetic chain have breaks in it from whee you may lean forward at the wrong point, shoot your knees back, etc.).

Got any videos?
 
Doing a static hold for 120s should be possible - rock climbers should be able to do it easily.

If it's just double handed grip and just hanging I don't see why 2 mins shouldn't be possible - grip does knacker the CNS a little so I can understand why not everyone would be able to do it.

It depends on how slippery it is how sweaty you are, how wide the grip is etc...

It's not really a feat of strength though.
 
Curious about the holding yourself for 120 seconds, so I tried it.
120 seconds first go no problem. My grip was starting to go at the end but I can see how most people wouldn't be able to do it. I could've held it for maybe 10-20 more seconds.
 
Reasoning behind it =

...a special assistance movement for the entire posterior chain. It works the erectors through a greater range of motion not covered by traditional deadlifts and pulls, but also targets the lats and rhomboids for back strength. A box or plate is usually required for the greater range of motion and touching the floor will require some rounding of the back (especially through the upper and mid back). Start with a light weight and snatch grip, then reach down toward the floor which will cause protraction in the back. To ascend, pull the bar while contracting the deltoids, rhomboids, lats, and glutes. Keep the bar close through the entire movement to prevent excessive rounding of the lower back. Usually lifters will use around their snatch weight for this exercise for repetition but start light and focus on the muscle activation. There are costs and benefits to all movements, and if you have a condition that increases the costs over the benefits then do not perform the movement. In this case, the lifter is well prepared for this movement. They have a strong anterior core, excellent hip mobility, hamstring flexibility, and kinesthetic awareness to perform this movement safely. The weight is light. This is less than snatch weight. Most of the rounding should occur in upper and mid back. While some lumbar rounding will occur it should not reach end-range flexion. Also he does not change his degree of rounding until near the top. Given the mobility and flexibility of this lifter, they are still in their safe zone. If you are unsure, then work with a coach experienced in these methods to show you how (as with any movement). This is an assistance movement for the entire posterior chain, not just the lower the back. To repeat, do not change the degree of rounding until near the top so the back is 'set' for the movement. Use the hips and legs to assist in the lift and then the entire back retracts near the top.

Inb4 someone tries it and snaps themselves.
 
Finally went for physio for my hurting shoulder, after almost 3 months solo and it hasn't improved for a while, I thought it was time. It looks like i did partially dislocate it at the time and now one muscle of the rotator cuff/deltoid is clenched tight, I got the elbow treatment, a bit of easier band to use for strengthening, and electro-acupuncture, which was weeeeeeeird. The good news is it looks like just soft tissue damage so totally recoverable :), the bad news is lots of elbow and lacrosse ball treatment :(
 
Are box squats okay?

I've stalled a bit with my normal squats, but tried using my bench to box squat and found it so much more preferable. I'm only at light weight at the mo, but I'm able to go up the weight faster and perform a more explosive return. Only problem I'm having is bouncing the weight as I'm going too quickly and the bench I'm using is slightly above parallel.(Hip joint about 1 inch above knee as can't lower the bench)

Take a couple of plates off the bar, put under feet, boom, instant parallel or lower, non?
 
Ah - sorry. Smug-misread. *DERP* :o

On the other hand, however, HankScorpio probably shouldn't be doing box squats...

Ah, no worries! Yeah I'll add my two pence to your point, big back squat comes from lots of back squat. I'm personally weak out of the bottom until parallel so doing lots of box squat would help me less than just training the back squat, but YMMV, and box squats are fun to do sometimes :)
 
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