The 3 best players in the world... your thoughts?
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Well on goals alone, I believe Aguero has already equalled Suarez's goal count since he arrived at Liverpool, and he's played 4 games
I think Suarez will be required to do a Tevez-esque job for Liverpool this season though, pretty much grab them by the scruff of the neck and drag them to victory, which could go either way in the stats stakes (favourable if everything goes through him like Tevez compared to getting chances on a plate). Like Baz says they'll play different roles this season. Would take Suarez in our team any day of the week, but not over Aguero
I'm sure 'Pool fans would tell you the opposite though.
Where would he play?
Anyway,
1.Messi, greatest player to grace earth imo. With the amount of world class players around at the moment and he still makes it look easy and make them look stupid means for me he is the best ever.
2.Cristiano Ronaldo, sheer goals and assists mean he has to be up there.
3.Tevez, not many players can pull a team like he did last season for us. Scored countless vital goals and many world class ones. Although he is looking average now
Well you are all wrong as Adam Lallana should be no.1 as he makes Messi look ****, and is amazing
no.2 really should be Rickie Lambert as basically if he had a tiny bit more pace any prem team would be hammering on the door for him. When in real life he just proves you don't need pace to be good, just need ability
no. 3 urm I guess Rooney or Hernandez can have this spot but I'm not so bothered
no.2 really should be Rickie Lambert as basically if he had a tiny bit more pace any prem team would be hammering on the door for him. When in real life he just proves you don't need pace to be good, just need ability
no. 3 urm I guess Rooney or Hernandez can have this spot but I'm not so bothered
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3.Tevez, not many players can pull a team like he did last season for us. Scored countless vital goals and many world class ones. Although he is looking average now
Someone who looks average now is the third best player in the world in your opinion?
Even on form though Tevez isn't better than Rooney
I'd probably agree with this maybe bar Xavi or even Ronaldo, after that it would all be very very close.
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Bahahaha
Iniesta in the best team in the world, got 12 goals 12 assists, starting 61 games for Barca and Spain, the second best team in the world maybe.
Xavi got 5 goals, 14 assists in 57 starts for the same two teams.
Fabregas made 33 starts last year, for Spain, and Arsenal who are no where near the best team in the world, he got 10 goals, and 16 assists. So a higher total than both the other players, in almost 45% less games.
Yeah, Fabregas has been shocking in the past 18 months, quite literally the ONLY reason Arsenal are in the champions league, whats the stat Arsenal without Cesc, 31% wins, with Cesc 64% win rate.... the true sign of a player in horrible horrible form.
Despite playing with a recurring injury, he outperformed pretty much every attacking central mid in the world last season playing almost half the games........ just woeful form.
He's also started, errm 2 of 2 La liga games so far, and score, 2 goals.
IIRC this season Xavi has 7 appearances 1 goal and no assists for Barca this season. Iniesta has 8 appearances, 1 goal, 1 assist so far, and Cesc has 4 appearances, 3 goals, 1 assist.
Cesc is and always has been better than those two, he's more versatile, able to play anything from a deeper Xavi type role, to center forward where he started today, either wing, basically any offensive or midfield defensive position.
Spain were clearly, provably, statistically better in both the world and euro cups with Cesc on the pitch rather than without, for Arsenal the same is true to even the most blind person alive.
Best three players on the planet, Ronaldo, Messi, Cesc, in whatever order you want. Rooney on current form..... form has nothing to do with quality, he's tapping them in nicely, all game long the forum was full of "Rooney can't pass for ****" posts, because, he can't pass for ****. He often goes missing in big games, as, errm, Messi went missing today for Barca, as Ronaldo has, as Cesc has, as.... Zidane, Beckham, fat Ronaldo, thin Ronaldo, Xavi, Gerrard, Lampard, Torres, Drogba, etc, etc, every player has bad games, big whoop.
Rooney's getting goals, that doesn't make him one of the best three footballers alive, if current form meant that much then THeo getting a hattrick last year meant he was one of the top three that week for 8 seconds, except, thats ridiculous. Rooney's very good, he's excellent for Utd, his all around game doesn't come close to Ronaldo/Messi/Cesc.
Xavi is an exceptional player, but both he and Iniesta are a little over rated, Xavi really became seen as the best in the world, rightly, in a season he got 34 assists in and 16 goals, it was a truly phenomenal season, I'm not sure Cesc will ever beat that because it is, epic. Its slightly misleading(and I mean slightly) because Xavi also played in a pretty shocking 77 games that year
His fitness is pretty insane aswell, he's averaged 63.2 games a year in the past 5 years after his one and only injury hit season where he still played 20+ games.
In reality none of the season before or since have come close to that, but that is a year that should live in footballing history.
Iniesta, its debateable which actually is his best every year, 12 goals 12 assists, or 9 goals 16 assists, both in around 64 games, good years but, for a far more attacking player who plays ahead of Xavi, its not in the same league as a 16 goal 34 assist season. Iniesta is also a great player, but he's not even close to Xavi's level.
If this were 3 years ago, Xavi would be there instead of Fabregas, almost any other season Fabregas ahead of Xavi, not by much, but ahead for sure.
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I was going on last seasons performances, seeing as this season has only just started and so if your ranking players now Dzeko would be there for his 6 goals etc.Someone who looks average now is the third best player in the world in your opinion?
Even on form though Tevez isn't better than Rooney
He is looking average now that Aguero/Silva/Nasri are all playing so well, yes.
Of course he isn't
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Nah don't think he is better than Iniesta.
Yet a world-cup winning manager still kept him on the bench... and in the final, a big game against a good side that was close, Iniesta made the difference. Would you rather a guy that helps you avoid penalties in a diddy quarter-final against Paraguay like Fabregas or a guy that wins you tough finals?
Yeah I think he is easily as good if not better than Fabregas, a little off the other two but still makes him a top player.
I think you rely on your stats too much. You should watch people playing more to see what they can do.
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If I was a manager I'd rather have Rooney in my team rather than Messi or Ronaldo.
When was the last time you saw either Messi or Ronny run back to clear the ball off the line and prevent a goal? His work rate is unmatched.
When was the last time you saw either Messi or Ronny run back to clear the ball off the line and prevent a goal? His work rate is unmatched.
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Rooney is a great player but id have Ronaldo back in a heartbeat.
I dont want him tracking back, i want him causing mayhem in the opponents half. You wouldnt pick a defender based on the fact that he scores goals and you shouldnt pick a forward based on his tracking IMO.
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He scored a hat trick plus helped in keeping a clean sheet.
Last week Rooney did a tackle in his own box v Arsenal and it was because of his passion for the game.
Nasri did the same thing at Tottenham and it was because he is being paid 180k a week.
Its ridiculous, when all the pundits and fans etc pull things like this out. You would think that no other forward player came outside the opposition half.
Nasri did the same thing at Tottenham and it was because he is being paid 180k a week.
Its ridiculous, when all the pundits and fans etc pull things like this out. You would think that no other forward player came outside the opposition half.
Who assisted the winning goal again?
I think Fabregas is insanely good, carried a somewhat average team far beyond where they should have been for ages. Don't really watch enough spanish football to compare though tbh.
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I know that. However his job is to score the hat-trick not to clear the ball off the line - its a bonus but its not what he is judged on. Ronaldo has something daft like 90 in 95 for Real and thats what he is judged on even though he isnt an out and out striker.