The 5 year plan to £50k

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1995-2008 ish

I was easily distracted at school, always found chatting and messing around much more interesting than paying attention and doing the work so I used to just do enough to keep the teachers off my back but it barely equated to much. In fact for the entire last school year I didn't even take a bag telling them I'd forgotten it, I just used to carry a pen in my coat pocket and do the work on lined paper under the promise of copying it into my work books when I got home but then throwing it in the bin on the way out of the clasroom at end of lesson.

I left school with 9 GSCEs with the highest being a couple of Cs, can't remember the rest. I can't remember how now but I got onto some sort of college course at a small college in our town, it wasn't a proper college and I only lasted a few months as I wasn't that interested.
I then had some time dossing around at home after which I got a job working in the small private butchers section of our local KwikSave (remember them?) I can't remember how much I was on probably £30 p/w or something but again it only lasted a couple of months, I only did it to stop my parents nagging me, likewise with my next job working at a local auto factors working in the warehouse doing stock and such, my mum and dad went to France for 3 weeks that summer and I think I quit the job half way into the 1st week they were gone and had the rest dossing at home, it was bliss.

I then fell out with them and things kicked off a bit resulting in me getting the boot and spending a short time on the streets, ended only by a complete and utter fluke, one in a million chance even. I often think back and wonder how things may have gone if that didn't happen.

I ended up back at home and my Mum got me a job working at a small local engineering firm, I had just turned 17 I think and it was basically sweeping up and keeping the shop floor tidy in general, burning rubbish out back etc. it was £58 p/w take home after my £2 NI contribution.
I settled down a bit whilst working here and got more into the routine of working, it was days and afters and I could bike it in about 10 minutes, in all weathers with no gear so was bloody awful some days. I stayed there 5 years and progressed quite rapidly, there were no other young people working there but even so I ended up a shift supervisor and key holder and emergency contact by age 20 which seems bizarre when you're working with full blown adults with families and responsibilites etc, I was still a kid with no clue or life experience. When I left I think I was on £200 p/w at age 22.

I was getting fed up and there was no way to progress or anything there, so reluctantly started job searching as I'm not big on changes, I didn't have any qualifications and all that I'd learned there was only relavent to a small niche process they used that nobody else did. I'd basically resigned to the fact I'd be starting again somewhere on same or less money, until I saw an advert in the local free paper for an agency recruiting for workers at the Toyota plant, it would mean travelling but the basic starting rate even on agency and not full Toyota staff was still double what I was presently earning. I'm fairly confident of aptitude testing and the like as I'd previously taken a Mensa test and scored 147 IQ, I just wasn't confident with having no proper education background or qualifications, I needn't have worried as I breezed it.

There were hundreds start at the same time and when they were calling out our names and where we were going to work every other one was either "production" or "weld shop" then they read my name out and said "QA" and I didn't have a ****ing clue what that even was!
So after a bit of QA training it was onto the line inspecting a vehicle every 79 seconds, turns out I had quite the eagle eye for spotting defects, even ones not within inspection criteria and ended up with a few awards and vouchers etc for preventing issues getting off site. I thought I was doing well at Toyota. I started agency and within 3 months took the full test and became a proper Toyota employee, by 2004 money went up to about £21k basic but with OT, shift allowance etc it was about £25k all in, I was one of the better inspectors on line and often got asked to re-write inspection procedures during off line time or weekend OT.

I'd been there about 3 years when they had a shift around and our group leader and senior group leader both got swapped, the two replacements were terrible and they soon concocted a way of getting rid of people they didn't like so I ended up getting shifted to the other side of the plant into the press shop, a complete new start again with no clue what I was doing. This was the start of a long slow downard spiral in my mental state and wasn't a very nice time of my life if I'm honest, I'd just bought and moved into my first house, living alone with no friends, work colleagues were just that, people Ihad to work with so would get on with them politely etc. The first group leader I had in press shop was pretty good, but then they swapped them around again and the new one was a complete ****.

I didn't get on with him at all as he was one of these professional ladder-climbers that had never done the job he was supposed to be running and didn't have a clue. He stuck me on the same job contiously because other people would complain of strains and injuries, they'd taken out some robots and replaced them with men as the robots were damaging the panels, but this was hard work and lots of people got out of it by feigning injury but I was too stubborn and carried on with it for about 2 years, I wrecked my shoulder and wrist in the process but I stuck it out just to wind him up. He gave up in the end and managed to transfer me to another part of the press shop that was really grim and for the first time in a long time I just wanted to give up, I was the one who was never sick, did all they asked of me, did all the weekends and OT when everyone else was "too busy" and all I got was **** on. It was 2008, I'd been there 6 years and had enough so I just jacked it in, I took some time off long term sick on full pay first though before handing in my notice. I think my last full year there I grossed £30k, but the OT was ridiculous, during the week it was mandatory and they would literally have you in saturday and sunday just to paint stuff and sweep the floors, I just wanted more time for myself.
 
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It's depressing from the POV that people seem so well organised and have a career, they've spent time progressing and I've just wasted most of mine doing nothing with no clue where I wanted to be or what to do, no idea of any sort of training I'd want to get involved with or indeed even what I'd want to get trained in.

I may write it up here but it will be long winded because it will be a process of venting some frustration as well as documenting what I've done.

I'll start by saying I've not really read your long post. Why? Because it really doesn't matter! What's behind is history, each day can be the start of a new journey.

At 18 I gave up a 12 year RAF pilot scholarship for love. I spent 6 years bouncing around, 6 months working, 6 months off, doing nothing with my life. I am 37 in June, married to the girl who I didn't join the RAF for, 2 great kids and a mortgage. During my working life I've done:

Shops sales assistant in Game/Electronics Boutique
Software development NVQ for a massive multi-national, left after a year.
Storeman for an equestrian company
Sanding down wooden furniture after it's been varnished
turning pork pies out of tins
plastic extrusion line operator
Moved to a potato company and worked lines, weighbridge and worked up to a Team leader loading lorries (fork truck licenses)
Stock control and Assistant manager for a picture frame manufacturer
Assistant manager for a furniture manufacturer
Shift leader for another food manufacturer
7 years working as a shift leader for an online bingo/casino company running online chat teams
IT and technical bloke for a Visual Impairment specialist business
IT/blogging/SEO etc for an estate planning company
Now I'm an analyst for a massive anti-fraud company and spend my life in databases and errors.

I also run my own photography business on the side, doing 5-10 weddings a year.

I have no idea what I really want to do even now. I am enjoying my job but my real talent is streamlining business and processes, making things more efficient. What I want to be doing? Living in the woods renting out glamping units :D Spending quality time with my kids with no stress.

My advice to you is, forget your past regrets. Hit the job center website/cwjobs/total jobs etc, find something that interests you and see what you need to get into it.

You can do, and that's from one MENSA member to another ;)

What do you need to do it? You need drive, a want. What do you want? House? Car? Holidays? when you want something, and you look at it every day, remind yourself why, you'll work harder for it.
 
I think that's part of the problem, I've never had any goals, still don't, apart from the totally unrealistic goal of owning my own detached place out in the middle of nowhere where I can perhaps potter around in the garden or have a workshop I can mess around in all day. But that's lottery winner stuff not actual real life, real life revolves around the daily slog of working and that's about it.
 
It's depressing from the POV that people seem so well organised and have a career, they've spent time progressing and I've just wasted most of mine doing nothing with no clue where I wanted to be or what to do, no idea of any sort of training I'd want to get involved with or indeed even what I'd want to get trained in.

I may write it up here but it will be long winded because it will be a process of venting some frustration as well as documenting what I've done.


If anyone tells you their career path has been smooth and linear, they're talking out their arse or they work for mom&dad. In order to get somewhere you need to take risks and step out of your comfort zone, and perhaps most importantly, always be on the lookout for opportunities. Always. If you see something that could turn out well for you, then go for it. Put in the time and effort and push for it. Do what it takes and find somethung that motivates you. Success is rarely easy, you have to go for it. Good luck :)
 
My career path has been a complete accident. I'm not really motivated to progress (or at least I haven't been until recently)
I prefer doing jobs that I really enjoy and feel that I am good at, rather than working at things and pushing myself to move upwards.

2002 - Quit university with a mountain of debt and no degree after 2 years. Badly run course and lack of personal motivation.

2003 - Get a job working for Thomson selling holidays in a call centre. Awful pay but decent (and unfortunately highly inconsistent) bonus. Perks included free working holidays every few months. I hated this job, it made me feel sick some days going to work, but I learnt a lot about how contact centres work, sales and customer service. At this time I still have literally no idea what I want to do with my life.
Base salary £10,500 :eek: Bonus impossible to calculate, some months £50 some months £500

2006 - Move to England (from Wales) to work in Customer Service for TNT. Very different environment - proper contact centre (virtual CC over 4 sites with around 600 agents) No sales targets as such, role is more CS focused than Sales focused. Work is very easy - bookings, quotes, answering queries, tracking consignments etc.
Base salary £17,850 Bonus approx £300 per month.

2007 - Change role in the same contact centre to handle high revenue accounts. Complete change in role and responsibility, this is now not really like a call centre role any more, you are acting as single point of contact for a few high revenue customers and basically sorting everything out behind the scenes to ensure they achieve their promised service levels. I suppose it's more like a dedicated 2nd or 3rd line support role for the world of parcels. No increase in salary but the new position opens up the opportunity to get a salary increase after a period of time served.

2009 - Take an internal exam to prove competency in my role and achieve a significant base salary increase
Base salary £20,500 Bonus approx £250 per month.

2010 - Incremental (really incremental :p) pay rise
Base salary £20,900 Bonus approx £300 per month. (Bonus situation fluctuates annually due to T&C changes)

2011 - Secondment. I am chosen for a business travel assignment travelling around the UK training new employees. My salary remains the same but I am given a company car which is a useful perk. Secondment takes approx 7 months following which I return to my role.
I'm getting itchy feet now and bored of my "home" role. Having tried something different I am keen to move into a training or learning & development role as soon as possible.
Base salary £20,900 Bonus paid as a set average £250 per month.

2012 - Change of role. My boss who looked after me whilst on secondment tells me she has a permanent position in her team and that she expects me to apply. I apply and get the job as a Sales Learning & Development specialist - this is a big departure from my previous role - I am now based in a smaller office in a small team of trainers. Training, coaching, facilitation, material design, branding, etc etc. The whole setup is a complete departure from my old role and a breath of fresh air.
Base salary £26,000 and fully funded company car

2013 - Stay in the same job but the company pays for me to do an accredited CIPD course in L&D so that I have a piece of paper that says I know what I'm talking about.
To be honest this was a bit of a wobbly year for me. For some reason after a strong start I don't settle effectively and whilst my manager is on maternity I don't get great support from the person I regard as the senior member of the team.
I am told in no uncertain terms at my end of year review that the person I regard as senior should not be considered as such and that I am expected to step up and take the lead in the team. It's not a bollocking but the meaning behind the words is clear.
Incremental pay rise
Base salary £26,999 and fully funded company car

2014 - This year is a real success for me professionally if not financially. We have a couple of team shifts and the scope of my role broadens. I learn a lot about general HR and get involved in talent scoring, interviewing, recruitment, selection and that kind of thing in addition to my day job. I also get involved supporting a system implementation project which is my first real taste of this kind of thing. Despite the increase in work quality and responsibility I get no pay rise as we are in a financially shaky position on the verge of a failed merger.
Base salary £26,999 and fully funded company car

2015 - Stormer of a year, I feel I grew loads in this period. My colleague (the allegedly senior person) develops long term sickness and misses the entire year, during which I single handedly run the department. Glowing feedback all round and I get a project rolling out a Salesforce system implementation. I am also given a secondee to mentor to replace the colleague who is off sick, which is interesting and keeps me occupied. I have a major illness during June but make a fast recovery and come back in time to run the project implementation until the end of the year.
The purse strings are still tight (we make several redundancies from our team alone this year) but I do get a pay rise at least
Base salary £27,800 and a fully funded company car

2016 - Our departmental director is fired. My manager goes on maternity (again) and subsequently leaves. Her manager also leaves after a dispute with the new director. The entire feel of the department changes, we make significant redundancies and the team is reduced to what feels like a skeleton. I am now actively unhappy and want to leave, I literally cannot stand the new regime. I manage to secure more "loan" work abroad (our head of department from a few years ago has moved to the global head office and asks me to assist on a few small projects abroad)
I use these connections to seek out a global role and at the beginning of the year I find one.
This is a global travel assignment rolling out Salesforce to the rest of the world, starting in the UK. I won't get a pay rise and there is no guarantee of getting my old job back, but I don't really want it back anyway!
Initially this is a 6 month "see how it goes" contract, so I start in June working in Newcastle commuting every week back and forth and living in a hotel. All my travel expenses are paid, I live in a 4 star hotel and my meals are all paid for on a per diem system.
Base salary £28,500 after a small payrise and I keep the company car

2017 - I sign a contract extension and stay on the travel assignment.
Pros - I get to travel. I get my food paid. I enjoy the job. I am learning loads. I have a great team. I don't have the politics BS and horrible working conditions of my home business unit
Cons - The travel assignment puts me in an employment black hole with funding, investment, financed development opportunities and pay rises, plus it isn't secure.
I get to travel to the Netherlands, Greece, Norway, Sweden, Finland, Denmark, Portugal, Austria, Switzerland, Poland, Latvia, Slovakia over the course of the year.
I sign another extension.
All the travelling means my home bills are tiny and all the paid food etc means I can save much more than I have ever been able to before.
Base salary £28,900 after an incremental payrise and I keep the company car

2018 - I start the year split between Poland, Austria and Slovakia.
I am offered a permanent role in my home business unit (they are obliged to offer me a role under our integration rules as we are going through a takeover) but it means I have to leave the project I am working on now. I decline it and stay on the project - it's not the job I want, I would miss the travel, and there was no pay rise on the table.
Then I spend time in Turkey, then Germany. After this I move to Egypt and then directly to Singapore. From Singapore I go to China which is where I am right now, sitting in the office in Shanghai.

What happens after this I don't know. I have a contract until December, after that it's unclear - I definitely have no permanent job to return to
In order to achieve a pay rise I need to leave - that much is clear. I should really be on £40-£50k by now but laziness combined with the curious structural situation of the company means I'm nowhere near that figure.

Currently studying for my Salesforce ADM201 and DEV401 exams, following which I will be actively pursuing a Salesforce related role. Where in the world that will be I don't know. I have no real UK ties, my girlfriend lives in Austria... lots of options but I'm struggling to find something that tempts me.

So my story is probably and example of how not to do it, but hopefully people might find it interesting anyway.
 
You say it's not how to do it, but I'm slightly envious. You're in a position where you haven't "needed" to chase the money and have gotten to see (or travel) several parts of the world. Depending on your character, that could quite easily supercede many other job aspects.

As has been mentioned in the past, the easiest way to bump up pay is switching companies. When I first started working I was very much of the mindset to stay with a company for a long time, prove that I'm reliable and committed so they would invest in me and allow me to progress up the ladder. When things didn't work out as I had hoped (read as: lied to) I took matters into my own hands and haven't looked back. There's nothing wrong with staying where you are, it's not being lazy, it's being comfortable. If you weren't overly happy that would have forced your hand and you'd move on - if you're content you tend to stay put and "progress" stalls a bit in comparison. There is no right or wrong pathway.
 
Yes I suppose that's true. In the last two months alone I've visited Istanbul, Singapore, Hong Kong, Cairo, Guangzhou, Beijing, Macau, Shanghai; visited the Pyramids of Giza, had a cocktail on the roof of the Marina Bay Sands hotel, seen the Alabaster Mosque, the Hagia Sofia, Blue Mosque, cruised the Bosphorus, visited the Great Wall of China twice, seen some of the highest towers and most famous skylines in the world...

So you are right it certainly isn't all bad! Luckily I get the time to do some tourism too and I enjoy the job :)
 
No idea what sort of Salary I'd be happy with. I've been contracting for nearly 5 years now and have been on rates between £350 and £750 a day.
 
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It's depressing from the POV that people seem so well organised and have a career, they've spent time progressing and I've just wasted most of mine doing nothing with no clue where I wanted to be or what to do, no idea of any sort of training I'd want to get involved with or indeed even what I'd want to get trained in.

I may write it up here but it will be long winded because it will be a process of venting some frustration as well as documenting what I've done.

For what it's worth I feel the same way. I am 28 and earning a really poor wage (£18,800), I tried a career in ICT and I hated the help desk to the point where I just decided to quit and go back to a boring office job with no clear direction of where I want to go. I see everyone around me happily going to work and building real careers.

I have started to self learn programming in C# the other week and fingers crossed I can keep the momentum going and see where that takes me.
 
Very interesting thread, I won't post my journey, because it is very short and boring and I'm not earning 50k.

Do feel like I need to try different jobs out now rather than later. Don't like that feeling of not knowing what you're supposed to do and just getting comfortable with a job that's a bit boring.
 
One step closer. I heard yesterday that I'm going for a second interview for a new job next week. Can't bloody wait. This will mean I can hit the magic £50k like I do now, but with much, much less overtime and a better quality of life. Or I can continue my overtime levels and easily break past the £70k mark. It also allows me to run a whole building exactly how I want to. Implement my own systems / procedures / schedules / etc. I can do it now, but my current manager is threatened by me and undermines everything I do so I'll be glad to see the last of him if I get it.


This is a massive jump in salary and responsibility. This is what I need, this is the natural evolution of my career and going from contractor side to client side means I open a hell of a lot more doors with much greater salary prospects.

Wish me luck :D
 
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Wow this thread has come a long way since I dropped in last!

I am applying for a job that will take me past the 50k mark!

Will share my story but lets see if this pans out first...
 
My biggest motivator at the moment, apart from taking care of my family, is property. I'm absolutely obsessed with it to the extent I spent ~1hr a day on rightmove fantasising about owning properties I can't (yet!) afford.

I can't decide whether this means my passion is property and that's where I should work, or if it means I need to work harder in my current career (finance business partner / accountancy) to afford these houses.

Either way, I'm fairly comfy in a big company with good opportunities and some exciting changes ahead in the industry I work in (energy).

I always want more though, but not such that it impacts the time I get to spend with my young family. Perhaps when the children are older, I'll give my life to a bank in Birmingham to afford that dream home.
 
Wow this thread has come a long way since I dropped in last!

I am applying for a job that will take me past the 50k mark!

Will share my story but lets see if this pans out first...
Ok so I didn't get the job but thought I would share my progress anyway...

GCSE: 2A's 4B's C's & D's
A levels: 3C's Business & ICT
Uni - Had my placement year during and in the end got a 2:2 in Business Computing Systems- left with a £bajillion debt

2008-2009 - Marketing - Started £15k - left £19k 20/21 yrs old
I started at a business to business marketing agency in 2008 during my placement year at uni (did a sandwich course) and hated it. First 3 months were hell, at which point I got into an altercation with a new manager and he ended up pouring water over my head! After speaking with HR it actually gave me the kick up the backside I needed to get myself into gear. Within a month I was promoted earning £4k more than the other students there. Was loving it!

I then had no idea what I wanted to do in life and I have a history of teachers in the family so I decided to get onto a funded course to teach ICT to chiddlers.

2011-2014 - Teaching - Started £21.5k - left £28.5k 23-26 yrs old
Completed my training year and pretty much walked straight into a job as demand was high. Also turned out I was quite good at teaching (graduated with a letter of commendation) so I managed to do well pretty much straight away. Got a few additional responsibilities during my time there and whilst it wasnt the worst, it was by no means the best place I have worked. Could not wait to leave. In the end a recruitment agency got in touch with me offering me a job literally 20 mins walk away from home. No brainer so I applied.

2014-Present - Started £33.5k - Currently £43.5k 26-30 yrs old
Turns out the recruitment agency was rubbish and didnt get in touch for weeks. Fearing I had lost out on the job I approached the school directly and noticed that the Head of Department role was up for grabs. I applied directly and got an interview! After beating out another candidate who had 5 years experience on me I got the post and inherited the worst team/department I have come across.
I put in an action plan to turn it around and now have an Outstanding department which has given me tonnes of experience and confidence, so much so that I am applying for Assistant Headteacher posts!

Hoping to become an Assistant headteacher as I would like to prove to myself that I am capable. It also means that my salary will be £55k+ which is nice.

Throughout my journey I have never chased money but thankfully it has always paid well enough for me. I do feel like I can earn more but teaching is a genuinely fulfilling and rewarding experience that I fear I couldn't jump into anything else - but at the same time I do not want to work until 68!
 
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