Poll: ***The all new gymrats thread***

Do we archive this thread and start a new one for 2010?

  • Yeah good idea.

    Votes: 11 78.6%

  • Nah I'm happy with this one.

    Votes: 3 21.4%
  • Total voters
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I'll try to doing seated shoulder press with the backrest up and see how I get on.

Also you know that military press is with your feet together right? Otherwise it's just shoulder pressing. :)
 
Yes it's a common misconception, offiically military press is feet together standing - this means that there's much less chance of you leaning back to compensate for the weight.

however over the years standard shoulder press has now been dubbed "military" press - incorrectly I might add.

Seated shoulder press should also be done without the back rest for true representation - otherwise most people arch their backs and push against the the backrest which is cheating somewhat. I can add a good 20kg to my lift with the backrest up.

Having the backrest up has it's place of course :)

As for paritals, they are good for punching through sticking points and activating the connecting tissues in the muscles and tendons that are struggling - so yes, in a way they can help strength as once you've pushed through that sticking point you may be able to lift more.

My sticking point on bench for example is around 3 inches from my chest so what I could do is load the bar up on a rack at exactly that height and practice lifting it from that point again and again and again and it'll only come down as far as the rest stops.

However, it, in itself, does NOT increase strength - it helps the weaker part of your ROM... if they were not concentrating on their weak point (i.e. like my 3 inch from chest area) and just doing it for the sake of getting "stronger" then I very much doubt it.

For a start it'll impair their flexibility, tighten the muscle group and make it such that it may actually weaken their full ROM as a result.

Partials should only be used for sticking points, or in combination with FULL ROMs to aid explosive/power development. Partials alone are pointless.
 
Kappa said:
HC2PP is my shoulder workout of choice! :D
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Ditto, love 'em. If you control the downward movement as well, you get a good burn. But there's something satisfying about throwing a bar up with close to your bodyweight above your head :D

Kappa said:
Welcome back, do we get to see some no homo RobbieG style pics?
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I may post a few pics, I've leaned up a lot since the holiday and lost some of the "bulk" but still weighing in around 98kg so not too bad. :)
 
Eating has been great. Lots of fresh fruit, fresh vegetables, lean meat (all grilled). Sun and swimming! What more could you want?! :D A little drinking, but not more than a couple of beers from time to time.
 
Argh! First session back after holiday - feel weeeeaaaak. Didnt' lose size though obviously some water rentention and a bit of BF has gone, but damn if yesterday's session wasn't hard?! :eek:

Muscle memory will kick in soon enough, but I struggled to push 100kg for 6 on my 6th set on BB bench! :o Considering I was back up to pushing 140kg before my hols! :o

Bah anyway, it'll take a couple of weeks to get back into it, just going to do full body splits until November where I'm going to hit a 5x5 routine until Christmas, then in the NY hitting AGVT again (it'll have been 4 months) but I will stack some Will-made supps during the process as I felt very burnt out after it and struggled mentally with it at times. It'll be on the lines of Creatine/OKG/EEA/D Ribose/Beta Alanine/Caffeine (I'll have a cup of coffee)/Simple carb (i.e. banana) pre and post will be Creatine/OKG/EEA, some protein and carbs, I'll blend it myself and whilst I am very anti supps (I have tried them all bar the naughty ones) I will admit that on an intense program like AGVT I'm going to need it - my diet it spot on and will also be addressed to add extra nutrition, but for the mental and physical exersion that this program does I'm going to need that extra bit of help.

I can't wait! Only problem is I get water retention from creatine - but this isn't a bad thing as it helps to lubricate joints.

After AGVT in Jan, I'll go back to a full body split/high volume training followed by strength training and cycle etc... It seems to be working well for me. :)
 
My full body routine goes something like this (all 3x8 or 4x6 depending on the day)

Routine 1:

Powercleans
Back squats
Wide grip chins
Flat BB bench
Tricep pull down
21s

Routine 2:

HC2PP
Front Squats
Incline DB bench
BORs
Dips
EZ Bar Curls

Routine 3:

Deadlifts
Leg Press
T-Bar Rows
Flat DB Press
Skull Crushers
Zottman Curls

And repeat - 1 break in between them. I often add supersets to some of the exercises, e.g. flies for chest, lat pull downs with t-bars, side raises with HC2PP, etc....
 
Volcs said:
Doesn't arch that much :confused: - certainly not as much as any powerlifter would during a BP.
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You're right it's not a big arch, but I (and many others) would suggest keeping the back in contact with the bench at all times is a far better approach. PLs do arch their back lots, but IME arching back is constituted as bad form.
 
Oily fish and oils aren't really there for muscle growth, but the other health implications are so vast it seems daft not to get some into your diet.
 
We all started somewhere :) I find the 40s pretty easy to deal with now but it's taken me a while for me to get there so don't worry about it. :)

I've pressed 60kg DBs that was tough but I've been to a gym where they go up to 100kg!! :eek:
 
Did a leg session today, back squats got up to 160kg for 5 which was pretty nice, and DLs managed 180kg for 2 sets of 4 reps without straps or belts etc.. (this was after 7 sets of back squats). So although not my 220kg it's getting back there which I'm chuffed about as it's been quite weak recently.
 
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