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Norton 2010. I've put it on one of our most used PCs at work which is exposed to a lot of crap been running perfectly catching everything. I run occasional spyware programs to double check but nothing ever comes up.
And its quick too.
I had NOD32 on there before. that did a good job too.
Kaspersky didn't. I have seen **** up a lot of computers, and its a system hog anyway. I would avoid.
And its quick too.
I had NOD32 on there before. that did a good job too.
Kaspersky didn't. I have seen **** up a lot of computers, and its a system hog anyway. I would avoid.
Soldato
Soldato
Have you now?
I have used Kapersky for the past year, just upgraded to Kapersky Pure. Can't fault it.
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No AV can protect you against the fakes since their altered so fast that the legit programs can't keep up.
I suggest for the task of keeping the fakes off your system you install malwarebytes anti-malware then pay to upgrade it to the pro version (I think it's around £15 for a lifetime license)
Have you now?
I have used Kapersky for the past year, just upgraded to Kapersky Pure. Can't fault it.
Well I work in a computer repair shop. so yes i've seen
And it cocked up mine big time during an update. Had to do a full system restore to get my PC up and running again.
Its a very good scanner, and when it works its great. But it does seem to have issues with some systems.
Soldato
i can vouch for that
Soldato
The "Have you now?" was a joke referring to what you said. Since I think you missed "it" out of the sentence. Take another look at what you wrote
I was not questioning your thoughts on Kaspersky, as they are your thoughts, not mine
Soldato
Soldato
I've been testing a few more AV suites this last week or two; BitDefender 2010, Comodo IS, GDATA 2011 etc along with the usual suspects. As far as I'm concerned, MSE is still not very good, Avira is slipping and generating ever more FPs, Avast 5 is getting worse and GDATA is excellent as ever.
The real surprise for me though, and the reason for my post, is Comodo Internet Security, specifically the new version 5 beta. CIS 4 has surprised me in the past with its excellent detection and removal capabilities, so I decided to take the new v5 beta for a whirl in a virtual machine. The UI is a nice improvement over v4:
I threw over 50 (yes fifty) 0day threats at it (from MDL), including trojans, worms, bots, irc backdoors, droppers, rogues/fake AVs, TDSS, sality, bredolab etc etc. As a rule I find that the industry leaders catch between 95% and 99% (Avira, GDATA, Kaspersky, NOD32) and the poorer ones (MSE, Avast, AVG etc) score between 50% and 90%.
Comodo Internet Security 5 beta scored (for the second time I tested in a fortnight) 100%. The few samples the actual signatures missed, Defense+ (HIPS/behavioural analysis) caught with style. I had a couple of hits thanks to their new cloud checker too. Definitely one to keep an eye on imho, and free to boot. It's beaten everything I've thrown at it this week, and none of the paid-for suites have come close. It's times like this I regret the money I threw at NOD32, Kaspersky and Avast. 
Memory usage is a ridiculously low 6MB varying up to 12MB as I surf around the web. Yes that includes the GUI, services and scanner combined footprint! Scanning speed is phenomenal. Very, very impressed.
I've been running this on all our machines since the last 100% result I got, and I've had no issues. It's maybe a little chatty for noobs but once set up initially (10 mins maybe) you shouldn't hear from it again unless you encounter a threat so it's not too bad. v5 definitely cuts down on the chatter compared to v4 too. I've found it runs very nicely alongside MalwareBytes real-time scanner (layered security ***) and for free you can't beat it. I just found out that Matousec testing has been giving Comodo 100% this year too, so it's not just me.
EDIT: For those who want to try it out, I suggest you install following any defaults offered. Open CIS and then update the virus database signatures. Then right click the tray icon and go to Configuration and select Proactive Security. This will set up Comodo for optimal protection (better than default anyway).
Then in the main GUI window go to Antivirus > scanner settings and (if you're using the new beta 5) enable cloud scanning in the manual and scheduled scan tabs. On anything but really old/slow machines I also recommend you switch from Stateful to On Demand scanning. The only difference is that Stateful won't re-scan files you open once they've been checked, unless you've since updated the virus signatures database. On Demand will scan everything, no matter what. Given the teeny tiny memory footprint I can't see any real valid argument for not going full on with the On Demand scanner to be safe.
You might also want to go to the firewall tab and run the Stealth Ports Wizard. For optimal protection and usability I suggest you choose the middle option to stealth ports on a case-by-case basis. Finally you may wish to extend the time that popups remain on display for Defense+ and the sandbox (default is 120 seconds) so you have more time to read and decide what to do. If you miss any popups you can always access the settings later through the main GUI (specifically the "x unrecognised files" section of the Defense+ box under Summary). I hope someone finds this useful.
The real surprise for me though, and the reason for my post, is Comodo Internet Security, specifically the new version 5 beta. CIS 4 has surprised me in the past with its excellent detection and removal capabilities, so I decided to take the new v5 beta for a whirl in a virtual machine. The UI is a nice improvement over v4:
I threw over 50 (yes fifty) 0day threats at it (from MDL), including trojans, worms, bots, irc backdoors, droppers, rogues/fake AVs, TDSS, sality, bredolab etc etc. As a rule I find that the industry leaders catch between 95% and 99% (Avira, GDATA, Kaspersky, NOD32) and the poorer ones (MSE, Avast, AVG etc) score between 50% and 90%.
Comodo Internet Security 5 beta scored (for the second time I tested in a fortnight) 100%. The few samples the actual signatures missed, Defense+ (HIPS/behavioural analysis) caught with style. I had a couple of hits thanks to their new cloud checker too.
Definitely one to keep an eye on imho, and free to boot. It's beaten everything I've thrown at it this week, and none of the paid-for suites have come close. It's times like this I regret the money I threw at NOD32, Kaspersky and Avast. Memory usage is a ridiculously low 6MB varying up to 12MB as I surf around the web. Yes that includes the GUI, services and scanner combined footprint! Scanning speed is phenomenal. Very, very impressed.
I've been running this on all our machines since the last 100% result I got, and I've had no issues. It's maybe a little chatty for noobs but once set up initially (10 mins maybe) you shouldn't hear from it again unless you encounter a threat so it's not too bad. v5 definitely cuts down on the chatter compared to v4 too. I've found it runs very nicely alongside MalwareBytes real-time scanner (layered security ***) and for free you can't beat it. I just found out that Matousec testing has been giving Comodo 100% this year too, so it's not just me.
Matousec said:
EDIT: For those who want to try it out, I suggest you install following any defaults offered. Open CIS and then update the virus database signatures. Then right click the tray icon and go to Configuration and select Proactive Security. This will set up Comodo for optimal protection (better than default anyway).
Then in the main GUI window go to Antivirus > scanner settings and (if you're using the new beta 5) enable cloud scanning in the manual and scheduled scan tabs. On anything but really old/slow machines I also recommend you switch from Stateful to On Demand scanning. The only difference is that Stateful won't re-scan files you open once they've been checked, unless you've since updated the virus signatures database. On Demand will scan everything, no matter what. Given the teeny tiny memory footprint I can't see any real valid argument for not going full on with the On Demand scanner to be safe.
You might also want to go to the firewall tab and run the Stealth Ports Wizard. For optimal protection and usability I suggest you choose the middle option to stealth ports on a case-by-case basis. Finally you may wish to extend the time that popups remain on display for Defense+ and the sandbox (default is 120 seconds) so you have more time to read and decide what to do. If you miss any popups you can always access the settings later through the main GUI (specifically the "x unrecognised files" section of the Defense+ box under Summary). I hope someone finds this useful.
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Soldato
I ve got comodo 4 running atm with Avast and malwarebytes
as for avast I m not inpressed with that atm it keeps trying to kill a ligit windows serivce when i update so it sort of freezes the PC while it decideds what it should do
I do like kerpersky a lot through
for a £10 its a bargen althrough free is better
I heard a while back comodo use kerpersky scanning engine? is that true or cos its so good its seems likey
as for avast I m not inpressed with that atm it keeps trying to kill a ligit windows serivce when i update so it sort of freezes the PC while it decideds what it should do
I do like kerpersky a lot through
for a £10 its a bargen althrough free is better
I heard a while back comodo use kerpersky scanning engine? is that true or cos its so good its seems likey
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Comodo are actually using their own engine and signatures, and they are only just over two years old. As you allude, this makes them all the more impressive. For me though it's not the signatures that make them of use. Their default deny protection system, the integrated sandbox and Defense+ (HIPS) are the real clincher. You'd be hard pressed (or just dumb enough to click 'allow' on everything) to get any malware at all past the suite as the way Defense+ works just obliterates any chance for malware to do any harm, even if the signatures miss it completely.
Kaspersky works in a similar way, though in my experience (and other reviews/tests seem to concur) Comodo is actually superior overall. The fact it does all that, as well as running an industry leading firewall, on 6MB ram is - in my eyes - just astounding. Especially for a free product. Check out some of languy99's videos on YT, as he does a decent job of comparing all the available products and even does play-offs.
For me though it's not the signatures that make them of use. Their default deny protection system, the integrated sandbox and Defense+ (HIPS) are the real clincher. You'd be hard pressed (or just dumb enough to click 'allow' on everything) to get any malware at all past the suite as the way Defense+ works just obliterates any chance for malware to do any harm, even if the signatures miss it completely. Kaspersky works in a similar way, though in my experience (and other reviews/tests seem to concur) Comodo is actually superior overall. The fact it does all that, as well as running an industry leading firewall, on 6MB ram is - in my eyes - just astounding. Especially for a free product. Check out some of languy99's videos on YT, as he does a decent job of comparing all the available products and even does play-offs.
Soldato
I agree but comodo is not very gamer freindly as it keeps crashing games and I sort of know its that casuing it by doing a bit of googling...I m back with kerpersky again like wise as paid does have the advanaged I think defense + is way to aggressive at times
So is it possible you could test games like half life and see if it crashes them as they seem fine with kerpersky...althrough I m still getting a very annoying crash with boarderlands maybe thats just my GPU drivers again... I dunno
thats the one thing i hate about comdo its the reason why I always go back to it as well is the defense plus but like i said I think its way way way to aggresive.
kerpersky seems about right althrough I hate the firewall as I can't see the thing working were as I can with comodo
So is it possible you could test games like half life and see if it crashes them as they seem fine with kerpersky...althrough I m still getting a very annoying crash with boarderlands maybe thats just my GPU drivers again... I dunno
thats the one thing i hate about comdo its the reason why I always go back to it as well is the defense plus but like i said I think its way way way to aggresive.
kerpersky seems about right althrough I hate the firewall as I can't see the thing working were as I can with comodo
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Man of Honour
I tried Comodo today, it installs a secondary app too which I didn't like as it made nointention of informing me of it.
Anyway I found it stupid, it deleted my mIRC executable for some reason, it stopped WLM from connecting (I have WLM aPatched to remove ads) and in general I found its interface messy and confusing and that's in my eyes and I'm a sysadmin who deploys Kaspersky via network agent at work on a weekly basis to new machines!
I will remain a firm user of AVAST 5 as no other AV I have tried has offered on par the speed and protection I have experienced on a home machine yet.
Anyway I found it stupid, it deleted my mIRC executable for some reason, it stopped WLM from connecting (I have WLM aPatched to remove ads) and in general I found its interface messy and confusing and that's in my eyes and I'm a sysadmin who deploys Kaspersky via network agent at work on a weekly basis to new machines!
I will remain a firm user of AVAST 5 as no other AV I have tried has offered on par the speed and protection I have experienced on a home machine yet.
I've had no problems with Comodo and games, and I also run apatched messenger. By default Comodo is set to ask the user what to do, so I'm not sure what button you pressed there for it to go deleting stuff. I have to say I didn't find the UI cluttered or confusing at all, whether on 4.x or on the new beta 5. Especially as an ex-Kaspersky user who definitely did find their UI overly complicated. Horses for courses I guess. I don't find Defense+ overly aggressive at all, except in the right places. Since full control is given to the user (you are the one who decides every time) I don't see that as a bad thing. It's not like it does a BitDefender and quarantines all your system DLLs lol Anything it finds, it asks about, which I like. The new UI for v5 is awesome too imho. If you haven't tried Comodo for a while maybe install it in a VM and have a look-see?
As an aside, I paid for Avast 5 but dumped it after it let my main machine be compromised leaving me with hours of work on my hands.
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I have to say I didn't find the UI cluttered or confusing at all, whether on 4.x or on the new beta 5. Especially as an ex-Kaspersky user who definitely did find their UI overly complicated. Horses for courses I guess. I don't find Defense+ overly aggressive at all, except in the right places. Since full control is given to the user (you are the one who decides every time) I don't see that as a bad thing. It's not like it does a BitDefender and quarantines all your system DLLs lol Anything it finds, it asks about, which I like. The new UI for v5 is awesome too imho. If you haven't tried Comodo for a while maybe install it in a VM and have a look-see?As an aside, I paid for Avast 5 but dumped it after it let my main machine be compromised leaving me with hours of work on my hands.
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So far so good here AMG. Comodo 5's new cloud scanner (online second opinion / whitelist) picked up steam no problems and HL2 is now installing without further prompts for me.
EDIT: Confirmed. HL2 installed no problems, and fired up and played without issue. I didn't even get a prompt, as Comodo automatically trusted it due to it being part of Steam. I didn't even need to enable Game mode.
Khaaan, what secondary app are you talking about? I've never seen that before.
Thinking back v4.x did install the Ask toolbar if you didn't de-select the option during install, but that's about it. I'm not sure what else Comodo would have installed.
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Hey
wondering if anyone knows how to get Kaspersky 2010?
I've done a format on my pc and bought Kaspersky key, but on the 2010 model - however i can only get the 2011 version from the website and i'm guessing the 2010 key is not compaitable with that?
Got about 8 months left so don't really want to waste it!
Any help much appriciated.
wondering if anyone knows how to get Kaspersky 2010?
I've done a format on my pc and bought Kaspersky key, but on the 2010 model - however i can only get the 2011 version from the website and i'm guessing the 2010 key is not compaitable with that?
Got about 8 months left so don't really want to waste it!
Any help much appriciated.