The AMD Driver Thread

humbug · 27 Jun 2015 at 04:35

Davedree said:
Well if you you admit the 30% is only seen in guru3d but not in other reviewers then we'll get along fine.

As to the other slide conclusive I thought that was the slide you were stating the r9 290x was run on 15.5 and 15.15, but then i realised you meant the tesselation slide. As to the conclusive i'm saying it's not conclusive because that test wasn't carried out with the r9 290x using the 15.15 driver, so it performs the same as the 390 2560 8gb, but i want to see 15.15 results on the 290x

I'm not going to relent to pedantic nit picking, i posted a multitude of slides with significant margins of difference. your picking the one i commented on and using it to tar the rest.

The slide i'm referring to (your first slide on this page) is not one that i had seen while doing this.

It does indeed show the 290X on par with the 390X but it also shows it with the 290X on 15.5 Drivers, as you pointed out.

So yes its prof that there may not be a difference between them, it also proves that 15.15 Driver has little to no impact there.

Davedree · 27 Jun 2015 at 04:38

No humbug it shows the 2816 290x on par with the 390 2560 8gb.
The same gap is seen from the 390 to the 390x,

The 290x needs to be run on 15.15, this is what we have been trying to tell you for the last 3 pages.

humbug · 27 Jun 2015 at 04:40

Davedree said:
No humbug it shows the 2816 290x on par with the 390 2560 8gb.
The same gap is seen from the 390 to the 390x,

The 290x needs to be run on 15.15, this is what we have been trying to tell you for the last 3 pages.

290X 1000Mhz 116
390x 1050Mhz 127 (+10%) take of the 5% clock and +5%, actually the Memory is also clocked higher here.

Sugarhell · 27 Jun 2015 at 04:42

If you want to bench some dx11 tess tools you can check these one :

http://developer.amd.com/tools-and-sdks/graphics-development/amd-radeon-sdk/#downloadsamples

tessmark sucks because it use only opengl.

humbug · 27 Jun 2015 at 04:45

The 290x in that slide used only 15.5. The 390 and 390x only uses 15.15 how is that conclusive?

humbug said:
290X 1000Mhz 116
390x 1050Mhz 127 (+10%) take of the 5% clock and +5%, actually the Memory is also clocked higher here.

Don't you think thats an interesting end to this debate? we have both learned something about those 15.15 Drivers and the 390X

On that note, i'm off.

Davedree · 27 Jun 2015 at 04:49

humbug said:
don't you think thats an interesting end to this debate. we have both learned something about those 15.15 Drivers and the 390x

There's more to uncover more testing needed but glad we getting omewhere with it.
Catch you later.

gpuerrilla · 27 Jun 2015 at 11:42

Wow that was early doors guys to be debating drivers!

Any boost to my 290x through drivers alone is welcome I would say..

jakspyder · 27 Jun 2015 at 11:51

I'm confused about all these drivers, 15.5 15.6 and 15.15...

I'm on windows 10, with crossfire 290s playing at 4k and at the moment I'm looking for witcher 3 performance.

Which driver should I be looking at?

thanks

TheSwede · 27 Jun 2015 at 11:55

Maybe a daft question but is there a driver that can be used for both the 290's and Fury X ?? Just wondering since hoping to get the Fury on Monday and thought I compare the 2 cards and using the same drivers, if possible.

humbug · 27 Jun 2015 at 12:06

jakspyder said:
I'm confused about all these drivers, 15.5 15.6 and 15.15...

I'm on windows 10, with crossfire 290s playing at 4k and at the moment I'm looking for witcher 3 performance.

Which driver should I be looking at?

thanks

I don't know, just the latest driver for your GPU.

TheSwede said:
Maybe a daft question but is there a driver that can be used for both the 290's and Fury X ?? Just wondering since hoping to get the Fury on Monday and thought I compare the 2 cards and using the same drivers, if possible.

You would have to use the 15.20 Modded Driver, i think.
But i wouldn't use Fury-X Drivers for the 290, when i used them on mine i found an odd freeze during gaming at fairly regular intervals, i didn't think anything of it at the time knowing i wasn't supposed to be using them on my GPU.

Having though more about it now i think what it was doing was moving Memory objects around, i think Fury does this to manage memory and my 290 doesn't have the Memory Bandwidth to do that seamlessly.

Best not use it.

Mauller · 27 Jun 2015 at 12:08

At least AMD are still creating improvements for older cards, although most of it is coming from lower overhead. Unlike Nvidia that likes to shaft older generations. But problems from both sides should reduce once optimisation goes into software with Directx 12. Although it's up to the devs then to fix issues.

jakspyder · 27 Jun 2015 at 12:10

Mauller said:
At least AMD are still creating improvements for older cards, although most of it is coming from lower overhead. Unlike Nvidia that likes to shaft older generations. But problems from both sides should reduce once optimisation goes into software with Directx 12. Although it's up to the devs then to fix issues.

At the moment, vendors blame devs, and devs blame vendors. At least with DX12 we'll know where the issue is and who's house to burn.

TheSwede · 27 Jun 2015 at 12:23

humbug said:
You would have to use the 15.20 Modded Driver, i think.
But i wouldn't use Fury-X Drivers for the 290, when i used them on mine i found an odd freeze during gaming at fairly regular intervals, i didn't think anything of it at the time knowing i wasn't supposed to be using them on my GPU.

Having though more about it now i think what it was doing was moving Memory objects around, i think Fury does this to manage memory and my 290 doesn't have the Memory Bandwidth to do that seamlessly.

Best not use it.

Thanks, I just use the latest offical drivers for the 290 then, 15.6 Beta I think that be and the 15.15 for Fury.

gpuerrilla · 27 Jun 2015 at 12:53

jakspyder said:
At the moment, vendors blame devs, and devs blame vendors. At least with DX12 we'll know where the issue is and who's house to burn.

Dygaza · 27 Jun 2015 at 12:53

jakspyder said:
I'm confused about all these drivers, 15.5 15.6 and 15.15...

I'm on windows 10, with crossfire 290s playing at 4k and at the moment I'm looking for witcher 3 performance.

Which driver should I be looking at?

thanks

15.200.1040.0

thebennyboy · 27 Jun 2015 at 13:58

Dygaza said:
15.200.1040.0

Should this come through Windows update?

Dygaza · 27 Jun 2015 at 14:00

I'm not actually sure. 15.200.1023.5 should atleast. But there is mod for all windowses for 1040, so mod should work just fine

thebennyboy · 27 Jun 2015 at 14:07

Dygaza said:
I'm not actually sure. 15.200.1023.5 should atleast. But there is mod for all windowses for 1040, so mod should work just fine

Was going to say, 15.200.1023.5 is the latest i can get through Windows Update atm. Currently running 15.200.1040.0 using the modded drivers and they work very well, get about 5% on average performance increase with these drivers.

Calin Banc · 27 Jun 2015 at 17:36

humbug said:
If your talking about it being a 290X rebox it just isn't.

IF AMD changed something significant inside their GPUs, it would have been mentioned in their reviews. At the moment, I believe their difference in performance in certain games/scenarios, is only due to different clocks (and perhaps more vRAM) and some "nvidia kepler" move in regards to the drivers.

humbug · 27 Jun 2015 at 18:07

Calin Banc said:
IF AMD changed something significant inside their GPUs, it would have been mentioned in their reviews. At the moment, I believe their difference in performance in certain games/scenarios, is only due to different clocks (and perhaps more vRAM) and some "nvidia kepler" move in regards to the drivers.

You're a few pages late with that