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I think when the stock goes < 10 on OcUK there's an algorithm that ups the price automatically. £439 is definitely overpriced for that card though now, so just buy elsewhere if it's cheaper.
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** The AMD Navi Thread **
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None of the things you say are remotely being correct. First of all, AMD has an obvious supply problem with the 3900X and they haven't even launched a second SKU with 3 chiplets.
It has been known since October 2018 that intel won't release anything desktop on 10nm and AMD were pretty well aware at the time of the AdoredTV writings in early December, that's 1 and a half months later the Charlie's article at S|A. https://semiaccurate.com/2018/10/22/intel-kills-off-the-10nm-process/ https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/intel-kills-10nm-oo.18834819/
nvidia does have a monstrous Turing available, how did it "dial back"?
Navi at those price points is not competitive. A review just shows how the RTX 2060S is competitive with the Sapphire RX 5700 XT. While costing less.
https://wccftech.com/review/sapphire-pulse-rx-5700xt-navi-heartbeat-elevated/5/
My basket at Overclockers UK:
- 1 x Inno3D GeForce RTX 2060 SUPER Twin X2 8192MB GDDR6 PCI-Express Graphics Card (N206S2-08D6X-1710VA15L= £379.99
Total: £389.89 (includes shipping: £9.90)
My basket at Overclockers UK:
Total: £449.89 (includes shipping: £9.90)
And where are the ASRock, XFX, Powercolour and Gigabyte VGAs??
This is one game, here's a multigame benchmarks which show 5700 and 5700 XT as being 'value champions'
Let's go to the Review and see how many games are:
https://wccftech.com/review/sapphire-pulse-rx-5700xt-navi-heartbeat-elevated/6/
Here's my 2c as well: If you have flexibility with your seating/viewing situation, a TV can be superior to a monitor from both image quality & cost. What do I mean? I mean that you can make custom resolutions of most any aspect ratio, and usually this ends up being phsyically identical or larger than if you'd buy the monitor version (e.g. 32:9 49'' = in width to the width of a 55'' 16:9 TV; but you can also achieve something similar to a 52'' 21:9 display which is not available as a monitor), plus you also get the flexibility of giant 16:9 screen or the other ultra-wide (either 21:9 or 32:9). Calibration is usually better out-of-the-box for TVs, plus you can have much better HDR performance.
There's some caveats though (like against that Samsung):
* The Sammy has superior resolution vs 4K TV when the TV is used as 32:9 (3840x1080)
* The Sammy currently has better VRR support (Freesync), while for TV it varies or isn't available due to inexistent HDMI 2.1 on GPUs (until next year)
* 120hz is not available on current HDMI 2.0b TVs in these ultra-wide aspect ratios, I can use 3840x1080 @ 100hz but it doesn't scale properly on the screen (have to investigate this more), it stretches rather than centers. This might change with HDMI 2.1 but we can't confirm yet.
Obviously it's not a clear choice, but I think it's worth thinking about. For me the main thing is the flexibility. 32:9 is nice sometimes but usually I just find it too narrow, I think 21:9 is a much better middle-ground, but this ofc will depend on what you play the most. With a TV you can have a LOT of physical size which aides with immersion and you can switch between whatever aspect ratio you want without much hassle. Not having high refresh rate in 32/21:9 is a down-side but you still get 120hz in 16:9. Same for freesync/VRR while HDMI 2.1 is out, though if you buy a display for years & years then maybe waiting a few months isn't the end of the world (and it allows you to snag a bargain on a B9/C9 OLED during Black Friday).
This review is also interesting vis-a-vis 32:9, check it out:
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What? I don't buy this at all, if it were true every news site in the world would be championing AMDHum, 5700xt beats the 2080ti, dunno what your smoking
One can also if you look at Min Fps that the 5700xt offers a better gaming experience than the 2080ti also in many games.
so you can beat a 1600 euro card for a third of the price especially if you play BFV so dunno about that smoking stuff
Many don't understand how Min fps and Max fps affects gameplay.
https://www.techpowerup.com/review/sapphire-radeon-rx-5700-xt-pulse/33.html
I don't really need to. I'm a Patreon of his and have access to everything on his site. He explained why he did what he did and why some videos were taken off youtube, which were still freely available on his discord channel, without paying anything. I was obviously suspect of what all happened, however he explained why he did what he did and reasons behind it. As far as i'm concerned, I'm ok with why he did what he did after hearing from him directly why he did it.
That's a bit of a mouthful of a post. Bottom line is he had his reasons and I'm happy with his explanations. He got so much abuse it's not surprising he took cover from media and trolls who were happy to se him used like he was.
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Having never seen his infamous "part 1" I'm really curious to know what he said. Might give some context to what I'm now perceiving has him just moaning. Care to summarise for me off thread somewhere?
So is this circular or something, he was using rumours to make channel content and someone else was using him using rumours... ?
He's dancing on the hype train, there's no excuse for "my source said", it's still him pitching rumour as credible information when it's not.
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I updated the review thread with reviews of the aftermarket models:
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ocuk-rx5700-and-rx5700xt-review-thread.18858873/
Computerbase.de tested the MSI RX5700XT and Hexus has just tested the Sapphire Pulse RX5700.
https://forums.overclockers.co.uk/threads/ocuk-rx5700-and-rx5700xt-review-thread.18858873/
Computerbase.de tested the MSI RX5700XT and Hexus has just tested the Sapphire Pulse RX5700.
It’s not 4K lol.
They are testing the resolution. Slider that the card has in its boxed software.
They dropped the resolution for one card and kept all the other cards at native 4K.
This is like comparing checkerboard Rendering on ps4 to a pc native 4, totallly pointless
The pixels on the screen are 3840x2160 but part of the image is not native but rather rendered using non-native, much less compute-heavy techniques, hence the improved performance.
It's cheating, and the software is called TriXX.
I’m sure that’s what I said - it’s doing something similar to checkerboarding - only render part of the actual image and upscale to fit.
Some pc games already have the option in its settings menus and I’ve used them in the past. It helps performance but it degrades image quality so cant be compared performance wise to another cards hat isn’t using the resolution slider
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not that far off.... she is his niece (alegedly but is disputed)
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Absolutely agree should be £400 at most.
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So, $410 is currently just a touch under £340. This would then have £68 of VAT added, for a grand total of £408. The original price of £424.99 was £16.99 higher than this, and OcUK is now a further £15 on top of that! I realise the pound is struggling at the moment, but the maths doesn't lie.
I don't know what to think anymore. It is obvious that RX 5700 XT is extremely heavily OCed out of the box, which results in terrible performance/watt ratio. It should have been a 150W card, not a 250W card. Also, its multi-monitor power consumption is terrible - 36W vs ONLY 12W on the Radeon VII https://www.techpowerup.com/review/amd-radeon-rx-5700-xt/31.html
I think that you can safely buy the cheapest reference RX 5700 XT and do the following steps afterwards:
1. Set the power limit to -20% or the maximum negative value you can find;
2. Undervolt it;
3. Underclock it;
4. Set the fan curve higher during 3D load.
110°C Hotspot Temps "Expected and Within Spec", AMD on RX 5700-Series Thermals
RX 5700 XT Reference:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_rx_5700_and_5700_xt_review,10.html
Asus custom cooler, as you can see it spreads the heat over the whole PCB, which makes matters worse except for the chip itself which remains cooler:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rog-strix-review,10.html
I think that you can safely buy the cheapest reference RX 5700 XT and do the following steps afterwards:
1. Set the power limit to -20% or the maximum negative value you can find;
2. Undervolt it;
3. Underclock it;
4. Set the fan curve higher during 3D load.
110°C Hotspot Temps "Expected and Within Spec", AMD on RX 5700-Series Thermals
RX 5700 XT Reference:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/amd_radeon_rx_5700_and_5700_xt_review,10.html
Asus custom cooler, as you can see it spreads the heat over the whole PCB, which makes matters worse except for the chip itself which remains cooler:
https://www.guru3d.com/articles-pages/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-rog-strix-review,10.html
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Why do you post in this thread? There is absolutely nothing wrong with the strix card apart from the price. The temps are well within spec. The reference XT is a better card than the 2060s for performance. Heck even the 5700 beats the 2060s in some games.
That comment about the heat on the ASUS PCB is just ******.
That comment about the heat on the ASUS PCB is just ******.
Oh, it's always nice if AMD and its partners first ask their customers IF it is pleasant for them to keep hot parts in their cases...
I put my money that no one will say they were fine with it.