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** The AMD Navi Thread **

Some of the custom cards look nice. Still waiting it out though, hopefully some bigger GPU's around in time for Cyberpunk launch. I want an RTX 2080 Ti beater from either camp.
 
Ross Thomson said:
Eh that strix card isn’t hot.
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Just don't touch it if you don't want burning second or third degree in a matter of seconds ;)
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Boomstick777 said:
Some of the custom cards look nice. Still waiting it out though, hopefully some bigger GPU's around in time for Cyberpunk launch. I want an RTX 2080 Ti beater from either camp.
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If more games were coded in DX12 properly like Forza 4 & BF5, the 5700XT is bargain compared to the whole Nvidia lineup.
 
4K8KW10 said:
Just don't touch it if you don't want burning second or third degree in a matter of seconds ;)

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I am 100% you could say that about any card that is on 100% load so I have no idea why you think that's terrible. Also if you are touching your card while on 100% load then you should probably expect to get burnt.
 
Sargatanas2511 said:
I am 100% you could say that about any card that is on 100% load so I have no idea why you think that's terrible. Also if you are touching your card while on 100% load then you should probably expect to get burnt.
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There is a very big difference to RX 570 that is a GPU with the same size 200-250ish sq.mm. Not every card gets this hot https://www.guru3d.com/articles_pages/sapphire_radeon_rx_570_nitro_4gb_review,7.html

RX 570:
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Asus non-reference RX 5700 XT:
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Poneros said:
Here's my 2c as well: If you have flexibility with your seating/viewing situation, a TV can be superior to a monitor from both image quality & cost. What do I mean? I mean that you can make custom resolutions of most any aspect ratio, and usually this ends up being phsyically identical or larger than if you'd buy the monitor version (e.g. 32:9 49'' = in width to the width of a 55'' 16:9 TV; but you can also achieve something similar to a 52'' 21:9 display which is not available as a monitor), plus you also get the flexibility of giant 16:9 screen or the other ultra-wide (either 21:9 or 32:9). Calibration is usually better out-of-the-box for TVs, plus you can have much better HDR performance.

There's some caveats though (like against that Samsung):

* The Sammy has superior resolution vs 4K TV when the TV is used as 32:9 (3840x1080)
* The Sammy currently has better VRR support (Freesync), while for TV it varies or isn't available due to inexistent HDMI 2.1 on GPUs (until next year)
* 120hz is not available on current HDMI 2.0b TVs in these ultra-wide aspect ratios, I can use 3840x1080 @ 100hz but it doesn't scale properly on the screen (have to investigate this more), it stretches rather than centers. This might change with HDMI 2.1 but we can't confirm yet.

Obviously it's not a clear choice, but I think it's worth thinking about. For me the main thing is the flexibility. 32:9 is nice sometimes but usually I just find it too narrow, I think 21:9 is a much better middle-ground, but this ofc will depend on what you play the most. With a TV you can have a LOT of physical size which aides with immersion and you can switch between whatever aspect ratio you want without much hassle. Not having high refresh rate in 32/21:9 is a down-side but you still get 120hz in 16:9. Same for freesync/VRR while HDMI 2.1 is out, though if you buy a display for years & years then maybe waiting a few months isn't the end of the world (and it allows you to snag a bargain on a B9/C9 OLED during Black Friday).

This review is also interesting vis-a-vis 32:9, check it out:

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Thanks for the post, I am looking at all options and am in no rush at all. I keep changing from getting a TV to getting a large monitor. For where I want to put it I am limited in the size I can go. The Samsung just fits in perfectly into the diskspace, Any 55 inch TV that I looked at, doesn't. It would mean changing my whole room layout, which at the moment is setup for room scale VR. If the move the desk anywhere else in the room it really limits my VR space.
 
stuman said:
wow, they are all so far, so ugly. I think I would sacrifice some noise and thermals if I could avoid those ugly as sin monstrosities. They should really employ some real designers to come up with AIB designs.
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Don't know what you are looking at but that XFX is by far one of the best looking cards I have seen in decades, and the MSI Evoke too looks ace. The others not so much.
 
No MSI Gaming X 5700 XT? Is this the result of Nvidia's now defunct programme on making third party's not develop same cards for AMD ?

All the naming is different from Nvidia. Hmm..
 
Xfx looks like some **** toaster from Argos. The evoke doesn’t look too bad, the gold is grim and the webbing detail is pointlessly fussy. They are all trying far too hard.
 
Boomstick777 said:
No MSI Gaming X 5700 XT? Is this the result of Nvidia's now defunct programme on making third party's not develop same cards for AMD ?

All the naming is different from Nvidia. Hmm..
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Hmm. The ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-strix-oc/31.html is an identical card to the ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super STRIX OC https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-2070-super-strix-oc/31.html
And yet the 2070S is 13°C cooler, 64°C vs 77°C. The same cooler, the same shroud.
 
4K8KW10 said:
And yet the 2070S is 13°C cooler, 64°C vs 77°C. The same cooler, the same shroud.
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Firstly, that has sod all to do with the statement you were quoting, so enough of the ongoing crying. Secondly, after the Vega 64 Strix cooling debacle, what point are you trying to highlight by comparing 2 Strix cards? The very fact that they are the same cooler (according to you) probably just shows Asus have cheaped out again and bolted an ill-fitting Nvidia cooler to a AMD card again.

Seriously, what fevered meanderings are you peddling these days?
 
4K8KW10 said:
Hmm. The ASUS Radeon RX 5700 XT STRIX OC https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-radeon-rx-5700-xt-strix-oc/31.html is an identical card to the ASUS GeForce RTX 2070 Super STRIX OC https://www.techpowerup.com/review/asus-geforce-rtx-2070-super-strix-oc/31.html
And yet the 2070S is 13°C cooler, 64°C vs 77°C. The same cooler, the same shroud.
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different GPU dies. 7 nm is hotter than 14/12nm. You have a lot of heat in a small area so its going to be difficult to dissipate. compare ryzen 1700 and a 3700 for temps using the same cooler. Your science is shockingly bad.
 
Ross Thomson said:
different GPU dies. 7 nm is hotter than 14/12nm. You have a lot of heat in a small area so its going to be difficult to dissipate. compare ryzen 1700 and a 3700 for temps using the same cooler.
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This means that the larger die is an advantage. And also the observed temperature is a consequence of not careful planning of the frequencies. The card is a mid-range one, no need to push it against the big boys, and out of its sweet spot.
 
4K8KW10 said:
This means that the larger die is an advantage. And also the observed temperature is a consequence of not careful planning of the frequencies. The card is a mid-range one, no need to push it against the big boys, and out of its sweet spot.
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only smaller because its built on 7 nm rather than 14 nm. card is aimed depending on competitors. it goes against the 2070 and 2060 super based on performance and price.
 
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