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** The AMD Navi Thread **

robfosters said:
Will these cards give us any clue as to the potential performance of PS5?
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The cores, sure. But we don't really have any idea how many of them there are going to be, what kind of memory (unified or not), will it have additional cache, what kind of bus it and Zen 2 will sit on, how much custom work (if any) will be done to the GPU silicon over consumer Navi.

Not sure we'll know much until everything is revealed. Though Microsoft are apparently going to do a soft reveal for XB Next tonight - which should also be Zen 2 & Navi, but could be a completely different config.

Either way, IMO Zen 2 is the big deal for PS5 / XBN. Not the GPUs. Such a giant boost over those low clocked Jaguar cores. This gen, AIs should finally become a bit more capable and interesting. It'll also push desktop PC to 8c/16t as the new recommended performance standard.
 
Oh dear 9.75 TFlops, that puts it between a Vega 56 and a Vega 64.

AMD put it up against the 2070, I think that might be absolute best case.

We shall see soon.:)
 
bru said:
Oh dear 9.75 TFlops, that puts it between a Vega 56 and a Vega 64.

AMD put it up against the 2070, I think that might be absolute best case.

We shall see soon.:)
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I’ll be very interested to see benches between Navi and vega 64. If it really isn’t much, I might be tempted to get a 64 for a nice knockdown price. I’ll want the test to be done on a zen 2, 570 platform though.
 
Tflops is not a great indication of game performance, not always, so i wouldnt read too much into the raw throughput of the card right now.

Plus this is still the 5700 isnt it? there should be a 5800 and ... maybe a 5900 as well if AMD stick to there old naming scheme.. which knowing them... cough.. they wont lol.
 
Stephanie Peterson said:
Tflops is not a great indication of game performance, not always, so i wouldnt read too much into the raw throughput of the card right now.

Plus this is still the 5700 isnt it? there should be a 5800 and ... maybe a 5900 as well if AMD stick to there old naming scheme.. which knowing them... cough.. they wont lol.
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Ah!, the old “shall I buy now or wait to see what’s round the corner” dilemma
 
Yeah, always something better round the next corner.
Prob worth waiting for the 5700 results, maybe there will be a leak of a 5800 imminent.
Still it looks encouraging so far as lets be honest nvidia would not be releasing "super" anything unless they felt threatened and they will know as much as anyone.
 
bru said:
Oh dear 9.75 TFlops, that puts it between a Vega 56 and a Vega 64.
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No.

Radeon RX 5700 XT: FP32 9.75 TFLOPs

Vega 56: FP32 10.75 TFLOPs

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-vega-56.c2993

Vega 64: FP32 12.57 TFLOPs

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-vega-64.c2871

Navi Radeon RX 5700 XT is actually slower than Vega 56 with 1 TFLOP less, if it was been released 2 years ago with HBM2 on 14nm then it would been called Vega 40.

Radeon RX 5700 XT is DOA at $499.
 
AthlonXP1800 said:
No.

Radeon RX 5700 XT: FP32 9.75 TFLOPs

Vega 56: FP32 10.75 TFLOPs

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-vega-56.c2993

Vega 64: FP32 12.57 TFLOPs

https://www.techpowerup.com/gpu-specs/radeon-rx-vega-64.c2871

Navi Radeon RX 5700 XT is actually slower than Vega 56 with 1 TFLOP less, if it was been released 2 years ago with HBM2 on 14nm then it would been called Vega 40.

Radeon RX 5700 XT is DOA at $499.
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Yup that is what I get for using AMD gpu wiki

AMD's own figures put Vega 56 at 10.5 TFlops here

and Vega 64 at 13.4 TFlops here


Now people are quite right that pure compute throughput isn't the only thing that gives gaming performance, for example the 2070 only does 7.4 TFlops and we know how that works out for gaming performance. so lets not right off Navi just yet.
 
bru said:
Yup that is what I get for using AMD gpu wiki

AMD's own figures put Vega 56 at 10.5 TFlops here

and Vega 64 at 13.4 TFlops here


Now people are quite right that pure compute throughput isn't the only thing that gives gaming performance, for example the 2070 only does 7.4 TFlops and we know how that works out for gaming performance. so lets not right off Navi just yet.
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That is very interesting, so potentially it could be faster than the 2070.
 
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